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I had a C model with the crank on the pilot side. crank it up crank it down Pretty cool actually.

There can be a big hole where all the wires come in from near the battery in the tail cone along the left-hand side, Low. That should be sealed up both to prevent carbon monoxide and cold air.

I would respectfully disagree with some of your points. 1. Some highly qualified employees, like Frank Crawford, have been with Mooney through the various management and ownership structures and their contribution to the factory and to Mooney fleet is simply invaluable. They are probably worth their weight in gold, if not more. 2. Bad management does not automatically translate into bad employees. Managers come and go, but loyal employees who are passionate about what they do tend to weather the storms. I do agree with your statement that you have no clue about who works for Mooney and what they do. Your remarks appear to be rather offensive to those who have been part of Mooney for many decades and who kept our planes flying, despite some of the poor management choices made by the owners and managers of the company.

Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt.

Interesting comment. So you think US Financial, LLC (Wyoming), the "so called" 80% Owner is just a cover for foreign owners? For years, foreign entities and cybercriminals have used Wyoming LLC's to hide their identity.

Why does a student get an F on a test? And is that considered dissing him? The factory stopped producing planes and can’t even produce parts. Does it get any worse than that? Is this not an F?

Yours looks good. I could make one I was just never impressed with the design and hardware. Seems like it would be so prone to damage it wouldn't be worth replacing. Might do it one day.

Wow. A real "people" person. Charming.

Then why are you dissing them?

This is absolutely how it will end, how stubborn the old owners, and how patient Lasar are will determine the when. What happens to the TC and the manufacturing/production certificate if a complete bankruptcy happens? Paying for access to order parts doesn’t lend itself well to “levels”. for the life of me I can’t understand the benefit or reason for them to propose something so vague and undefined. I don’t feel overly concerned about keeping my plane flying for the rest of my lifetime. if the commander fleet can limp along, mooney’s certainly will be able to, all that is left to determine is the shape that takes.

Do you know that the gauge is good? Maybe it's shorted. Did the installer test it?

Ah I see now. You don't consider management employees. They are. And while I have no doubt that there are some good lower level employees just trying to make a living there that fulfill their obligations to the company and try to do so to the best of their abilities, this isn't a charity, and we're not handing out participation trophies. Bad management means bad lower level employees. I see it all the time. People like people that are like themselves. And bad management typically hires people of the same rotten profile. They don't want to but yet the manage. And while some are probably worth keeping, this needs to go through a process of determining who is and who isn't worth keeping around. I'm not trying to shit on individuals here. I have no clue who works there, what they do, how much they're paid, what their qualifications are and what they even do if the factory isn't doing anything. I'm just being rational and am looking at the situation. This situation didn't just happen. There are objective reasons for it. I'm sure people involved will have plenty of excuses but at the end of the day they are failing. And that's the bottom line. There's a reason why Elon Musk has several successful companies and other people can't run even one. Like people said, there is not going to be a solution here that keeps the status quo, in today's world no one is so stupid or naive anymore to throw away that much money.

Any creditor can sue to force bankruptcy.

How many amps does the fp gauge draw? How many amps does the usb draw? Add those up (max draw) and see if the breaker is the right size for the load… or add a breaker and circuit for the fp gauge.. just a thought -Don

One, when they shut down, then started back up a few months later just about everyone who was called, returned. Sign of dedication to the company. Two, when I was able to get through with a need, I was supplied with an above and beyond answer, in one case including a photo of my airplane on the assembly line int 2004. Three, Last time I was at Kerrville, I did not see any expensive or late model personal vehicles in the parking lot. (It's a tell for how well your employees are doing) Four, I was employed by an airline that had a sterling reputation until bad management took it over and we suffered a 10 year decline to the point of bankruptcy. I and fellow employees kept our heads up but if you don't have the tools, you can't do your job. The new management came in and said (this is a direct quote), "We will no longer balance our books on the backs of our employees" We went from worst to first, the most financially successful airline in the history of mankind and with the results announced last Wednesday are pulling away from every. competitor. Because management completely changed the business paradigm of not trying to sell the cheapest seats but getting the most money for each seat sold by creating value in the product. Finally, and I am sure because of your location you are not aware of this, but the Kerrville area suffered flash floods Friday July 4 of this year. 107 deaths including 37 children swept away, some bodies still have not been found. I am sure not a person in the factory was untouched in some way personally being a tight community, but a part I ordered July 1 was shipped shipped out on Monday July 7. Dedication.

I would suspect the current owners would need to file chapter 7. Your assumption is they are willing to. Neither of us know what current ownership wants to do. I have no knowledge of debt. I believe we have 2 owners, neither US based, who were ready to put the key in the door and call it a day. What happens then? Lasar steps up to cover expenses with a contract to purchase. If the factory closes and rots away what are our options.

The USB has always worked. The breaker only pops when I connect the wire to the fuel pressure gauge and turn on master. If I remove the wire from the gauge, it doesn't pop and USB works fine. It's a 12v system.

Submit your evidence, I'm all ears.

I think that is excessively harsh and un-necessary. The production and engineering employees of Mooney have conducted themselves in exemplary fashion under very trying circumstances not of their making. I am sure they are ready willing an able to step up when properly led by good management. I've seen this movie before and when properly led, employees respond faithfully and enthusiastically.

By the looks of things, Mooney IS gone. But that's not the alternative. This is the alternative. Yes they could. But I suspect this whole thing is a people problem. People who think too highly of themselves in terms of their capabilities and what their actual capabilities are worth. The value as some pointed out is the design approvals and certificates. But I bet the employees think that the real value is in them and are being overpaid for what they contribute. And then there are the owners. One that likely wanted to do something but got stuck with useless employees and one that just thought they could put lipstick on this pig and make a quick buck. A motivated clever leadership and motivated employees could indeed make something out of this. But not the current entrenched lot. They've proven as much. Exactly. The entire crew, from the corner office to the cubicles, has to hit the exits; they're the root of the rot. Once the assets are auctioned off at fair market value, a fresh start on stable ground might just emerge from the ashes.

I know somebody who might buy that for a reasonable price. A Bravo owner with a tango uniform transducer. PM me.

It works! Thanks.

My comment was sort of tongue in cheek. I hope I’m wrong, but what I see happening is the following: The parts section of the website will remain off-line to the general public. Parts distribution will be tightly controlled. Factory parts are going to be outrageously priced (think Bonanza parts from Textron). The Mooney assurance program will offer members direct to consumer purchasing trough the parts portal with parts being discounted from egregious to merely outrageous.

F Model but same airframe with the battery in the tail. I’ll have a look at the red wire location, can’t remember if we wired it to the battery directly or thru the solenoid. Thanks for the suggestion. Billy

It seems that this thread has degenerated into a discussion of whether or not to mandate CO detectors. In spite of that fact, I feel that I should continue to post my findings on this problem in an effort to see that someone in the future is helped by it. we flew it this morning after trying to stop what appeared to be potential CO leaks. A mechanic flew with me with the detector able to move it around and we discovered that the concentration was much higher in the backseat area. What’s on the ground I went to the back of the baggage area and found a gap in the bottom of the very rear baggage compartment panel. They were going to seal up that area and I will fly again Monday. I believe there is a good chance that this is where the problem is. I believe that it is getting in the tail cone and then forcing past that area at the back of the baggage compartment. I will report back as we learn more. Thanks for your comments and suggestions.