Wingover Posted October 12 Report Posted October 12 Looking for help from people who installed the Bob field seal on their M20J. I am specifically looking for help on where did you locate the little grey hose (that connects to the pump hose) that is part of the seal? Did you locate it down below the part of the door or on the side (closer to the hinge side)? Do you need to drill a hole to route it into the door? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Understand how to glue it and how to trim the plastic door cover if needed for space. Quote
LANCECASPER Posted October 12 Report Posted October 12 Looking for help from people who installed the Bob field seal on their M20J. I am specifically looking for help on where did you locate the little grey hose (that connects to the pump hose) that is part of the seal? Did you locate it down below the part of the door or on the side (closer to the hinge side)? Do you need to drill a hole to route it into the door? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Understand how to glue it and how to trim the plastic door cover if needed for space.I did one on my previous airplane 4 years ago and ran it up under the armrestSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote
Wingover Posted October 12 Author Report Posted October 12 26 minutes ago, LANCECASPER said: I did one on my previous airplane 4 years ago and ran it up under the armrest Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Sorry, I am talking about the little grey piece tube that is part of the seal itself. It has to somehow go inside the door frame. Quote
LANCECASPER Posted October 12 Report Posted October 12 Sorry, I am talking about the little grey piece tube that is part of the seal itself. It has to somehow go inside the door frame. If I remember correctly I put it at the bottom and ran the black hose to it. I don’t remember if we drilled a hole or not. It wouldn’t have been a big deal to do that though.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote
LANCECASPER Posted October 13 Report Posted October 13 1 minute ago, 231MJ said: Lance, What were all those suction cups for? There’s a tinted shade on my window https://www.justplanetint.com/collections/aircraft-kits/products/mooney-plane-tint-kits Quote
Wingover Posted October 13 Author Report Posted October 13 14 hours ago, LANCECASPER said: If I remember correctly I put it at the bottom and ran the black hose to it. I don’t remember if we drilled a hole or not. It wouldn’t have been a big deal to do that though. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Thanks! Hoping others might have more information or pictures if the install (especially the grey hose) Quote
LANCECASPER Posted October 14 Report Posted October 14 10 hours ago, Wingover said: Thanks! Hoping others might have more information or pictures if the install (especially the grey hose) @tomgo2 owns the STC for it Quote
tomgo2 Posted October 14 Report Posted October 14 Hello, You need to drill a hole in the door as indicated in red on the attached image. Note 5 is for Mooney aircraft models. Disregard the hole on the vertical surface. The hole on the vertical surface of the door are for non-Mooney models. The grey valve stem of the door seal is fed through that hole to the inside of the door. Thanks for the note @LANCECASPER Tom Quote
Wingover Posted October 14 Author Report Posted October 14 (edited) 13 hours ago, tomgo2 said: Hello, You need to drill a hole in the door as indicated in red on the attached image. Note 5 is for Mooney aircraft models. Disregard the hole on the vertical surface. The hole on the vertical surface of the door are for non-Mooney models. The grey valve stem of the door seal is fed through that hole to the inside of the door. Thanks for the note @LANCECASPER Tom Hi @tomgo2, Is it possible to get this (maybe PDF) by email or DM? I am not sure if I am missing the lower right part of your picture. I see the number 5 as 22" distance to where to drill but also see "5" at the bottom right of the picture but the rest of it is cut off. Edited October 14 by Wingover Name change Quote
Wingover Posted October 17 Author Report Posted October 17 On 10/14/2024 at 1:18 AM, LANCECASPER said: @tomgo2 owns the STC for it @LANCECASPER I just noticed that your door has a pin on the front side..see picture. My 1987 J doesn’t have it. What model was yours? Quote
LANCECASPER Posted October 17 Report Posted October 17 30 minutes ago, Wingover said: @LANCECASPER I just noticed that your door has a pin on the front side..see picture. My 1987 J doesn’t have it. What model was yours? That one was an M20M. 1 Quote
Andy95W Posted October 17 Report Posted October 17 Please report on how you like it, and if you had any difficulty during installation. Thank you! Quote
LANCECASPER Posted October 17 Report Posted October 17 1 hour ago, Wingover said: Finished mine Looks good. Unless you've flown with it after the initial install to look for places that it doesn't seal quite right, it isn't finished yet. The holder of the STC sells silicone shim material to put in places, under the seal, where it doesn't quite fit. This is especially important in that concave area at the bottom of the door. After a few tries when you get it to seal just right, you will notice an incredible difference when you pump it in flight. It will be worth all of the effort. Quote
Wingover Posted October 18 Author Report Posted October 18 7 hours ago, Andy95W said: Please report on how you like it, and if you had any difficulty during installation. Thank you! The only difficulty I had was holding the seal in place on the forward part of the door, it kept sliding off. I managed to keep it in place after all. Doing an oil change so won’t get a chance to fly it until next week. 1 Quote
Wingover Posted November 10 Author Report Posted November 10 On 10/18/2024 at 12:28 AM, LANCECASPER said: Looks good. Unless you've flown with it after the initial install to look for places that it doesn't seal quite right, it isn't finished yet. The holder of the STC sells silicone shim material to put in places, under the seal, where it doesn't quite fit. This is especially important in that concave area at the bottom of the door. After a few tries when you get it to seal just right, you will notice an incredible difference when you pump it in flight. It will be worth all of the effort. Went on an hour flight to test the seal. Happy to report an amazing difference in noise level, no more "hissing". What I did during the install was to glue it in place, shut the door (go out through the baggage door) and inflate it a bit to move around between the frame of the plan and door based on the pressure of the air. It seems that it paid off since I didn't need to realign it again. Very happy with the product! Thanks @tomgo2 1 1 Quote
Fly Boomer Posted November 10 Report Posted November 10 6 hours ago, Wingover said: What I did during the install was to glue it in place, shut the door (go out through the baggage door) and inflate it a bit to move around between the frame of the plan and door based on the pressure of the air. How did you move it around? Quote
Wingover Posted November 10 Author Report Posted November 10 4 hours ago, Fly Boomer said: How did you move it around? I didn’t. I used some tape to just hold it in place until I could quickly close the door and inflate it a bit to make sure it “moved” as in fill the gap between the airplane frame and door frame. The silicone glue that came with the kit doesn’t really hold the seal in place like superglue, you can move the seal for probably good 1/2 hour or more before the silicone cures. 1 Quote
Slick Nick Posted November 12 Report Posted November 12 On 11/10/2024 at 1:49 AM, Wingover said: Went on an hour flight to test the seal. Happy to report an amazing difference in noise level, no more "hissing". What I did during the install was to glue it in place, shut the door (go out through the baggage door) and inflate it a bit to move around between the frame of the plan and door based on the pressure of the air. It seems that it paid off since I didn't need to realign it again. Very happy with the product! Thanks @tomgo2 Where did you purchase yours from? Does @tomgo2 sell direct? I am in Canada. Quote
LANCECASPER Posted November 12 Report Posted November 12 15 minutes ago, Slick Nick said: Where did you purchase yours from? Does @tomgo2 sell direct? I am in Canada. This is his website: https://aerocessories.aero/ 1 1 Quote
Andy95W Posted Tuesday at 02:06 PM Report Posted Tuesday at 02:06 PM Hi @Wingover- when you have time, could you please take a picture of the bottom of your door? (so I can see how you oriented the seal with regard to the slider.) Quote
Wingover Posted Tuesday at 02:28 PM Author Report Posted Tuesday at 02:28 PM 17 minutes ago, Andy95W said: Hi @Wingover- when you have time, could you please take a picture of the bottom of your door? (so I can see how you oriented the seal with regard to the slider.) Hi Andy, I just got back from flying so won't be at the hangar for a week. I basically cut and rounded the slider corner (per instructions) that is closer to the seal. When I closed the door and inflated the seal to get it to dry in place it conformed to the door shape. I will send pictures next week. Tal 1 Quote
Jetdriver Posted Wednesday at 12:08 AM Report Posted Wednesday at 12:08 AM We installed one on our M20F and while the installation took longer than expected the results are very worthwhile. Significant improvement in heat retention and significant decrease in ambient noise level. Sent from my SM-S918U using Tapatalk 1 1 Quote
Slick Nick Posted Wednesday at 03:22 PM Report Posted Wednesday at 03:22 PM On 11/11/2024 at 6:29 PM, LANCECASPER said: This is his website: https://aerocessories.aero/ Much appreciated! I will be ordering one shortly! Quote
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