74657 Posted January 16, 2011 Report Posted January 16, 2011 http://www.flypas.com/images/1988_mooney_ovation_n95tz.pdf Interesting spin on advertising....... Quote
jelswick Posted January 16, 2011 Report Posted January 16, 2011 That is interesting. This was supposedly converted from an '88 Porsche Mooney to an Ovation. I can't tell in the photo, but I'm not sure it has the same back windows as the Ovations (looks more like a K window, but could just be the angle of the picture). The panel also looks quite a bit like what I recall seeing in the Porsche ones. I guess I can't say I know exactly what defines a Mooney model as an Ovation or not to say it's inaccurate, but seems funny to me. I guess the Porsche's had to be converted into something else one way or the other and the Porsche's were the first of the extra long bodies. Quote
scottfromiowa Posted January 16, 2011 Report Posted January 16, 2011 Yes, This is clearly a Porsche converted aircraft. The yokes and the throttle quadrant (were exclusive to the PFM, the first "long body" Mooney. The engine monitor (screen) was done with the conversion at Punta Gorda before the hurricane and flip flop of Porsche supporting PFM's/providing money for conversion. The useful load of these aircraft is L.O.W. and is a real limiting factor for the aircraft... Quote
74657 Posted January 16, 2011 Author Report Posted January 16, 2011 I knew that the STC was performed by AirMods in Punta Gorda and it never included a gross weight increase. Why did Porsche stop supporting the Mooney PFM's? Quote
blacknchrome Posted January 16, 2011 Report Posted January 16, 2011 Their marketing on this aircraft has been a little shady I think. When it first was posted if I recall correctly, it was advertised as an Ovation - with no mention of the Porsche conversion - it's an M20L, not an M20R Ovation. From my research, that L airframe is very limited in its functionality if you fly with any regard to limits of the POH. Quote
scottfromiowa Posted January 16, 2011 Report Posted January 16, 2011 Porsche stopped supporting the PFM because instead of improving the engine to compete with the 201 (that was faster) they ran away from support for a product Back to Germany...where legal council, no doubt said..."look the hurricane has destroyed most of the fleet" (liability)...let's cut and run and destroy all the parts and rescind support for engines out there instead of having a long liability tail...etc. etc...blah, blah, blah. A LOW Point for Porsche IMO. Quote
mooniac58 Posted January 17, 2011 Report Posted January 17, 2011 Yeah, I buddy of mine was looking at buying this aircraft and once he heard of the ~600lbs useful load that was the end of the deal. He could not even fill the tanks and take only himself up in the aircraft. Quote
John Pleisse Posted January 17, 2011 Report Posted January 17, 2011 They're worth about $80-90k. If you can get a Mod Works converted airframe for that, it's a deal. Otherwise, you are paying for too much, given the risk. They are NOT Ovations and shouldn't be categorized or compared as such. Quote
74657 Posted January 17, 2011 Author Report Posted January 17, 2011 Even for 80K who would want a 615 lb. useful load? Limited to Solo cross country flights or 30 minute sight seeing trips with 3 people. No thanks. Quote
Piloto Posted January 17, 2011 Report Posted January 17, 2011 Unlike the Ovation M20R that has 90 gallons fuel tanks the Porsche M20L airframe has 60 gallons tanks. José Quote
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