LANCECASPER Posted June 12, 2017 Report Posted June 12, 2017 The Concorde is just as easy for you to replace as the Gill. Quote
toto Posted June 12, 2017 Report Posted June 12, 2017 The Concorde is just as easy for you to replace as the Gill. No doubt that's true. I just meant that if a W&B change was required anyway, might as well do the Gill->Concorde switch. Quote
LANCECASPER Posted June 12, 2017 Report Posted June 12, 2017 There shouldn't be W & B change. Your '89 J Model is 28 volts. The Gill 243 weighs 28.8 pounds. the Concorde 24-15M weighs 29.5 pounds. If the weight and balance difference is less than a pound you don't need an A & P signoff, just a logbook entry with your signature. Quote
Danb Posted October 22, 2017 Report Posted October 22, 2017 At the Groton Aopa weekend the Gill rep offered me two new Gill batteries to test and report on, I turned him down since my Concordes were pretty new, he mentioned the new gills were much improved with more starting powered than the C's. Quote
jetdriven Posted October 22, 2017 Report Posted October 22, 2017 Kind of funny how all of the reports of the Gill battery's dying in two years and spewing acid all over your airplanes been ignored for all these years. Now all of a sudden you should use them because theyre better, we don't have any proof that but they're better. 1 Quote
Danb Posted October 22, 2017 Report Posted October 22, 2017 Agreed Byron, I think that's why Gill is offering some pilots to test and report on them. Instead of avaition consumer and others Quote
RLCarter Posted October 22, 2017 Report Posted October 22, 2017 7 years on wet cell Gill in a C-172, 6 years on sealed Gill in a M20C and 3 years on my sealed Gill in my M20E, the 172 will get a sealed Gill with in a year, once it's back in the air Quote
carusoam Posted October 22, 2017 Report Posted October 22, 2017 MS is a pretty powerful reporting station for real world Mooney aviation challenges... Having a pair of Concordes in the back... I started this weekend without any battery maintenance checks... I performed a warm start without selecting the battery with the most charge... I’m going to need the precision of a digital voltmeter to tell which Brand C battery has the most charge. I would have gladly taken the opportunity to have brand G support my battery needs. They just couldn't reach me as the end user... I bought the pair of Brand C with the BatteryMinder a year ago. Based solely on MS recommendations. Close to one AMU all in including the mechanic's installation... I was reluctant to change out one battery of a different brand at a time in the two battery system. (Not really an issue) Next Steps: Getting the Y wires installed to make battery charging simple without removing a panel... Selling batteries is a technical sale that benefits from a sales guy with personality that isn't afraid to go online to demonstrate the value of what he has. Brand C batteries last 5+ years in Mooney useage... they nearly sell themselves with their strong Mooney track record. How Long will it take for Brand G to demonstrate a similar track record? How Long will it take to overcome the memory of a brand G battery croaking at each annual....? Competition is good for the Mooney owner. It would be great to have Brand G here setting up users with their various requirements... 12v. 24v. single battery. dual battery. heavy usage 100+ hrs per year... low usage <20 hours per year... really hot down low in the summer. really cold at altitude in the winter. If you want to take on a battery challenge... call the folks at Brand G. Promise them that you will write about your experience.... Best regards, -a- Quote
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