rainman Posted June 6, 2015 Report Share Posted June 6, 2015 G500 owners/users, I just got the 7.0 upgrade and have a GDL 88 and 330ES. What's the buttonology for seeing ADS-B weather on the G500? The ADS-B traffic showed up automatically. I did the NAV data update that is required also. My avionics guy is on vacation and I didn't ask when I picked up the plane. ...I'll likely fly today and can play with the buttons.....maybe even read the book. D-Day recognition ceremony today then off to the airport...Texas in the summer..fly early...fly often. Thanks ..Ray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainman Posted June 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2015 For some reason, the weather pages open but show nothing? Also the 330ES shows no ADS-B symbol. I flew to 5500 ft north of San Antonio. I'll check the avionics Shop next week. Prior to the 7.0 upgrade, ADS-B traffic and weather showed on my small 430W screen, and TIS traffic showed on the G500. I used XM weather on my G696 and was getting ready to consider dropping my subscription but now I'll wait until this gets sorted out. Ray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkaye Posted June 7, 2015 Report Share Posted June 7, 2015 G500 owners/users, I just got the 7.0 upgrade and have a GDL 88 and 330ES. What's the buttonology for seeing ADS-B weather on the G500? The ADS-B traffic showed up automatically. I did the NAV data update that is required also. My avionics guy is on vacation and I didn't ask when I picked up the plane. ...I'll likely fly today and can play with the buttons.....maybe even read the book. D-Day recognition ceremony today then off to the airport...Texas in the summer..fly early...fly often. Thanks ..Ray The System 7 G500 update is fantastic! It is important to read the manual where most of your questions will get answered. The weather selection between XM and ADS-B is done from the AUX page either page 1 or 2 (I can't remember which one), the one that has the display brightness on it. Just look in the lower right hand corner for the selection. What weather data gets displayed is controlled in both the Map Setup pages and the Weather pages by using the menu button. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainman Posted June 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2015 I'll go back out today, the book is with the plane. It may be installed properly but I need to switch to ADS-B weather and it showed nothing because the G500 has no XM input. The 330ES has a very simple pamphlet and I'll need to look into why the "no ADS-B" symbol appears. I know I have to be at altitude, but that should have been fine above/near San Antonio. Thanks for your help. Ray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmyfm20s Posted June 7, 2015 Report Share Posted June 7, 2015 Did they give a new manual with the update? I have the V7.0 update and love it but the only additional items I got was the card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketAviator Posted June 7, 2015 Report Share Posted June 7, 2015 I have the G500 - GTN 750 & 650. Have V7.0 on the 500. As I recall it is in the Map-setup option page where you turn on the weather on the default (main) and or other pages MFD (right side) best I recall. We set it up as the plane was still sitting in the Avionics shop. I don't know if anything in the 430 package would effect but I could not see how as the weather and trafic are products of the GDL 88 and not the 430. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketAviator Posted June 7, 2015 Report Share Posted June 7, 2015 Also again don't know if it is different with a 530 or 430 but I also had to have Garmin provide me another Supplemental Data SD Card as the original SD Card was too small to hold the new data required. Also just FYI ANY card I have tried and used up to 32GB cards in every slot in the G500 and the GTN 750 and 650. I understand that the Store bought cards may not be legal because they don't carry the TSO legal requirements necessary except for use in the NAV data (top slot) of the G500 where Garmin said I could use any card I wanted. I have had two Supplemental Data cards go bad so far. Garmin replaced both but it was after the wrestling match and quite some time. My avionics shop got involved and his Garmin rep stepped up and did the right thing with 2 new cards. The new card for the G500 is now 3GB vs 2 GB, while the new GTN 750 is 8GB I believe. The only difference on the label is the copyright date. PS Garmin is the one that told me ANY card would work and gave me the instructions on how to format and use it! I now carry the original in service in the avionics, one original set left at home and one Store bought for emergency backup use in the plane with my enable cards. Fly safe all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkaye Posted June 7, 2015 Report Share Posted June 7, 2015 Did they give a new manual with the update? I have the V7.0 update and love it but the only additional items I got was the card. No new physical manuals with the update, but a new revision to the G500 manual online. You should download Revision H from the G500 site and keep it on the iPad or Aera 796. I've tried to attach the GTN 750 5.12 Supplement, but it won't upload. Email me if you want it: donkaye@earthlink.net 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainman Posted June 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 Set-up shows FIS as input for weather and traffic, but no weather (radar or Metar) shows up. Set-up previously showed TIS as traffic input, so the shop did change the input when they installed 7.0. I do get a new message when I turn on the master asking if I want to update my aviation data. I updated my NAV data after the 7.0 update. Do I need to click yes to this question? It automatically defaults to the old data if I do nothing. The Avionics shop is supposed to call me about my ELT later, so I'll keep you posted on the issue. Thanks for all the input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainman Posted June 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 I clicked yes on the update and the new NAV data dates now appear on start-up. That's resolved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkaye Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 Set-up shows FIS as input for weather and traffic, but no weather (radar or Metar) shows up. Set-up previously showed TIS as traffic input, so the shop did change the input when they installed 7.0. I do get a new message when I turn on the master asking if I want to update my aviation data. I updated my NAV data after the 7.0 update. Do I need to click yes to this question? It automatically defaults to the old data if I do nothing. The Avionics shop is supposed to call me about my ELT later, so I'll keep you posted on the issue. Thanks for all the input. You might try looking at the status of the FIS-B on one of the AUX pages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainman Posted June 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 FIS-B now appears on the set-up page and I get a radar image on the G500. It appears that all this time, my 330ES has not been sending my ADS-B out data. Clearly, the transponder has been sending out my location and altitude but after a long call with Garmin, I have to take the plane back to the shop......when my avionics guy gets back from Hawaii.....it's always something. How do you view the METARs off the G500? I can see the symbols on the screen and activate the cursor and move it over a location but then nothing when I hit enter? I've poured over the G500 book and spoken to their rep, but you guys seem to be the best info. Ray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmyfm20s Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 FIS-B now appears on the set-up page and I get a radar image on the G500. It appears that all this time, my 330ES has not been sending my ADS-B out data. Clearly, the transponder has been sending out my location and altitude but after a long call with Garmin, I have to take the plane back to the shop......when my avionics guy gets back from Hawaii.....it's always something. How do you view the METARs off the G500? I can see the symbols on the screen and activate the cursor and move it over a location but then nothing when I hit enter? I've poured over the G500 book and spoken to their rep, but you guys seem to be the best info. Ray press the funct button on your 330ES a few time and it will give you the ADS-B statue page. You can turn in on and off there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainman Posted June 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 I'll try that in the morning, thanks. My reading of the book led me to believe that it automatically defaulted to "on" at start up. I'll give it a shot since it needs to go to the shop for the ELT update next week anyway. Thanks. Ray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainman Posted June 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 Got it solved, here is the whole story. If you have both the GDL 88 and the 330 ES, only one can send the ADS-B out signal. My system was initially configured so that the GDL 88 was the out source. When the G500 7.0 update was done, they switched the source to the 330 ES, but that requires a hard wire connection from the GPS, 430W in my case, to the 330 ES. It should be no problem, and up until a week ago, I was sending my ADS-B out data via the GDL 88. The FAA requests the data come from the 330 ES if possible, and Garmin gave my shop a heads-up recently. Thanks for all the help and suggestions. Ray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 Got it solved, here is the whole story. If you have both the GDL 88 and the 330 ES, only one can send the ADS-B out signal. My system was initially configured so that the GDL 88 was the out source. When the G500 7.0 update was done, they switched the source to the 330 ES, but that requires a hard wire connection from the GPS, 430W in my case, to the 330 ES. It should be no problem, and up until a week ago, I was sending my ADS-B out data via the GDL 88. The FAA requests the data come from the 330 ES if possible, and Garmin gave my shop a heads-up recently. Thanks for all the help and suggestions. Ray Keep in mind that if you use the 330ES as the primary, you will lose the anonymous mode that the GDL-88 can provide. There may be times you don't want to be flying around with your N number hanging out... Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkaye Posted June 13, 2015 Report Share Posted June 13, 2015 Got it solved, here is the whole story. If you have both the GDL 88 and the 330 ES, only one can send the ADS-B out signal. My system was initially configured so that the GDL 88 was the out source. When the G500 7.0 update was done, they switched the source to the 330 ES, but that requires a hard wire connection from the GPS, 430W in my case, to the 330 ES. It should be no problem, and up until a week ago, I was sending my ADS-B out data via the GDL 88. The FAA requests the data come from the 330 ES if possible, and Garmin gave my shop a heads-up recently. Thanks for all the help and suggestions. Ray Not true. The GBT software has been modified be able to recognize ADS-B OUT from the same aircraft broadcasting on both 978 and 1090. Mine has OUT on both. This was confirmed by the person at the FAA to whom you send the information to get a report of whether your system is performing to spec. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainman Posted June 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2015 Thanks Don, I'll call the shop back on Monday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_elliott Posted June 13, 2015 Report Share Posted June 13, 2015 Not true. The GBT software has been modified be able to recognize ADS-B OUT from the same aircraft broadcasting on both 978 and 1090. Mine has OUT on both. This was confirmed by the person at the FAA to whom you send the information to get a report of whether your system is performing to spec. Don, I have "heard" you are only supposed to be transmitting out on one freq only per the ADS-B spec. Someone pointed me to the authority, but I never read it, nor saved it, I just accepted it at face value. Do you by chance have a reference that allows us to pump out our identity on both frequencies, as that does make sense since the 1090 band is so limited. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkaye Posted June 14, 2015 Report Share Posted June 14, 2015 Don, I have "heard" you are only supposed to be transmitting out on one freq only per the ADS-B spec. Someone pointed me to the authority, but I never read it, nor saved it, I just accepted it at face value. Do you by chance have a reference that allows us to pump out our identity on both frequencies, as that does make sense since the 1090 band is so limited. I have attached the response from the person who issues the ADS-B check reports to people who ask for the check of their system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_elliott Posted June 14, 2015 Report Share Posted June 14, 2015 Thanks Don, I was hoping this would be reality as it appears to be. Much appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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