kerry Posted January 2, 2014 Report Posted January 2, 2014 I saw on the news today it's legal to buy pot in Colorado starting today. Anybody flying to Colorado to make a $100 hamburger or should I say $100 pot run. I'm just kidding and I don't smoke pot but it could be a strange bussiness for crazy commercial pilots to fly out of state passengers to colorado. I wonder how the FAA would feel. Quote
DonMuncy Posted January 2, 2014 Report Posted January 2, 2014 I just saw on the news that non CO residents could only buy 1/4 oz of pot and can't take it outside the state. Would make for some interesting legal case. You can't take it outside the state, but if you did, how would they get a CO charge against you if you weren't in CO. I doubt they would try to extradite you back to CO for a pot charge. Maybe if they were watching you close enough, they would wait for you to come back for more and nab you then. Interesting. Quote
N201MKTurbo Posted January 2, 2014 Report Posted January 2, 2014 As long as they don't use it or transport it to another state, why would they care? Sense when does the FAA care where a charter company takes their customers? Quote
Jeff_S Posted January 2, 2014 Report Posted January 2, 2014 And people wonder why the CBP has started interdicting planes. They were just getting a head start on Kerry! Quote
AndyFromCB Posted January 2, 2014 Report Posted January 2, 2014 Best part about all of this for me as far as I am concerned, as it spreads to other states and becomes legal everywhere, it will put the CBP folks out of business. Good riddance. It's a product, it has customers, tax it, sell it. I'll stick to ice tea and coffee. 2 Quote
phecksel Posted January 7, 2014 Report Posted January 7, 2014 Let me see if I understand this, someone would use their airplane in a commercial operation to transport federally regulated drugs across state lines... and expect to keep their plane, and stay out of jail? Quote
John Pleisse Posted January 7, 2014 Report Posted January 7, 2014 You can't make this stuff up. Of all things, the National Resume Writer's Association's annual meeting is in Denver this year. OK!!!! http://www.thenrwa.com/ Quote
DS1980 Posted January 7, 2014 Report Posted January 7, 2014 And before, when the legalization happened at the state level, travelers at DIA were allowed to have 1 ounce on them if they had their card and were not traveling to a state in which it was not allowed. Now that's it's legal, passengers cannot have it on them, period. Crazy stuff, man! Quote
midlifeflyer Posted January 9, 2014 Report Posted January 9, 2014 I just saw on the news that non CO residents could only buy 1/4 oz of pot and can't take it outside the state. Would make for some interesting legal case. You can't take it outside the state, but if you did, how would they get a CO charge against you if you weren't in CO. I doubt they would try to extradite you back to CO for a pot charge. Maybe if they were watching you close enough, they would wait for you to come back for more and nab you then. Interesting. In theory they could nab you when you next visited or seek extradition after the Feds or another state grabbed you. But aside from that, the current Federal hands-off policy on the Colorado law is based on Colorado having what the Feds see as a good regulatory scheme in place. The offense of transporting the stuff out of state, and the limitation on visitor purchases is likely part of that. Quote
kmyfm20s Posted January 9, 2014 Report Posted January 9, 2014 Pretty Stoney conversation you guys go'in on man! Quote
kmyfm20s Posted January 9, 2014 Report Posted January 9, 2014 New FAA regulations.....8 hours "Toke to Taxi" ? 1 Quote
kmyfm20s Posted January 9, 2014 Report Posted January 9, 2014 " If your flying high, no High flyers! " 1 Quote
garytex Posted January 13, 2014 Report Posted January 13, 2014 Nationalization can't be too far behind. I understand Obama promises that if you like your current Dealer you can keep your current Dealer 2 Quote
John Pleisse Posted January 21, 2014 Report Posted January 21, 2014 Update. Fell out of my chair........... Quote
fantom Posted January 21, 2014 Report Posted January 21, 2014 Drunk drives will now have stoned drivers to keep the cops busy and the rest of us scared.....but the Prez says no downside. Quote
RJBrown Posted January 21, 2014 Report Posted January 21, 2014 FAA rules didn't change. NO THC It is still considered an illegal drug on your FAA medical. Any use will either cause you to fail a medical or lie on the application. This is just stupid people doing stupid things. Only now Colorado gets to charge tax on it. Quote
John Pleisse Posted January 21, 2014 Report Posted January 21, 2014 Great for state's rights, though. Gun laws, the pledge in schools, law enforcement, even healthcare...... they'll all be in play. This is the problem when the Fed cherry picks enforcement.... state precedent becomes future referendum. What's good for the goose....Thank goodness flying will always be a Federal privilege. Quote
midlifeflyer Posted January 21, 2014 Report Posted January 21, 2014 Drunk drives will now have stoned drivers to keep the cops busy and the rest of us scared.....but the Prez says no downside. Sorry, but I think you're imagining a problem that is not too likely to exist. Pot has been around in widespread use for 50 years. Check the stats - DUI pot is very, very rare. The desire to drive around while incompetent may well be one the the differences between pot and alcohol, somewhat going along with the general tendency to be less violent. There's actually information available on this but I guess time will tell... Quote
John Pleisse Posted January 21, 2014 Report Posted January 21, 2014 Sorry, but I think you're imagining a problem that is not too likely to exist. Pot has been around in widespread use for 50 years. Check the stats - DUI pot is very, very rare. The desire to drive around while incompetent may well be one the the differences between pot and alcohol, somewhat going along with the general tendency to be less violent. There's actually information available on this but I guess time will tell... This is incorrect. Cannibis use while driving does have measurable affect on psycho motor skills. Most studies (Columbia U and Norml) rely heavily on a lack of statistics, they use mostly medical marijuana users in control groups and simulator drivers. The most profound affects are driving slow (watch your V-speeds) and entire states legalizing marijuana will provide more concrete data. Remember, the average drunk drivers gets away with it for 12 years before they kill someone. Quote
David Mazer Posted January 21, 2014 Report Posted January 21, 2014 The Democrats want to tell us how we should live and the Republicans tell us how we shouldn't. Surprisingly, these questions have already been answered on a large scale over a long enough period to give meaningful answers. Portugal decriminalized essentially all recreational drugs. All of them including heroin, cocaine, meth, you name it. The net result has been no significant increase in usage and a huge decrease in regulatory costs and violence. Not to mention the increased tax revenues. This question is asked and answered. I'm not saying any of these are necessarily good for the individual using them nor is it condoning those drugs when they are decriminalized (just like legal alcohol isn't encouraging people to use it) but from a larger perspective, society is severely damaged by keeping them illegal. We have standards with respect to alcohol and operations of machinery and cars and planes that help guide responsible people to make responsible decisions. With these drugs being illegal, period, how does one make a reasonable decision if one has reasonably used MJ in CO? And, by the way, while there is evidence that even small amounts of alcohol in the blood can effect driving skills (hence the new discussion to reduce the legal limit to 0.05) there is no evidence to support that it will actually reduce accidents since almost all alcohol related accidents involve blood alcohol levels north of 0.12. We should concentrate on what matters not what just has some effect of no significance. If you don't like pot, don't use it. If your worried about refer madness, there is no basis for that fear. If you care about society more than the individual bent on hurting themselves no matter what, forget about it and let them do themselves in. They're going to find a way anyhow. Back to my libertarian leanings. I always try to look where government should get involved and it is always when ones actions interferes with the rights of another and never when ones actions harms themselves (children excluded). This is an individual knowingly acting in a harmful or potentially harmful manner with only themselves at risk. 4 Quote
David Mazer Posted January 21, 2014 Report Posted January 21, 2014 This is incorrect. Cannibis use while driving does have measurable affect on psycho motor skills. Most studies (Columbia U and Norml) rely heavily on a lack of statistics, they use mostly medical marijuana users in control groups and simulator drivers. The most profound affects are driving slow (watch your V-speeds) and entire states legalizing marijuana will provide more concrete data. Remember, the average drunk drivers gets away with it for 12 years before they kill someone. Not to speak for midlifeflyer but I think you missed his point. He only said they aren't as likely to drive not that their driving wouldn't be impaired. A reduced likelihood to drive would result in a lower likelihood of an accident. I also agree with him that pot smoking is much more pervasive than most think and that there have been pot saturated drivers around for long enough for it to have been statistically relevant already. I don't recall ever hearing about an accident attributed to pot (clearly an anecdotal statement). Quote
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