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Everything posted by kortopates
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Am I understanding the engine and prop haven't been been overhauled since 1970; thus 46 years old? If so I'd price it as a run out engine and prop. I personally wouldn't even fly it if the hoses are still that old till they are replaced. I'd doubt the engine would last more than a year due to corrosion if it's truly that old with so much time sitting. But hope iam wrong but you'll find lots of stories here of people that suffered that fate. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Use the search function. This has been covered. You can send it in the OEM who will rebuild in about a week and at a great savings - you'll get the current production version too. The company's name is Globe motors. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Aerodon's advice on adding FF to the JPI is spot on but also make sure the unit has downloadable memory, preferably via USB, or its value will be severely limited. But it should still be upgradable or at least useable as a core for the 830 display which was ~$1200 the last time I noticed. Most installers do not shorten the harness, just bundle it up, so I would expect you'll be okay as long as it's in good shape. Or just buy a new harness, they are not expensive. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Of course, everyone's favorite blonde Mooney pilot!! [emoji846] and you got her out of Dan's 201 with the longer leg room to boot! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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By the way, the lost display columns are almost always from an installer tightening the screws too tight and cracking it. They rarely fail otherwise. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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While they have your unit be sure to talk to them about upgrading it to support FF and make sure it has downloadable memory on it too or it'll still be useless. You really can't record much useful info in the air. You need to fly it and then download the data on the ground and look it on your computer. As you talk to JPI, consider upgrading the display to the newer color 830 display. You can look on Spruce to check prices for any sensors including FF and the upgraded display which is a trade in and you will see all parts are cheaper through Spruce than JPI. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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First thing I would do is consult the IPC to see how the rear was configured from the factory in '63. If it did have a hat rack, now you know what parts you may need; especially plastic parts and you know you won't need any approval beyond A&P supervision and signoff to install. But if not you can look at the IPC for the C model too see what it would take to modify accordingly and again work with your A&P but he'll likely feel comfortable doing it as a minor mod especially if its done to Mooney's spec.
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The "current" ICA is officially the one that Mooney published when the aircraft was manufactured. The manufacturer can update the ICA all they want after the aircraft has been manufactured but we are only obligated to follow the "current" which means current version at time of production. The point of the article is that the FAA legal counsel has ruled the manufacturer can not legally make updates that retroactively now apply to us. Only the FAA can do that in the form of an Airworthiness Directive (AD).
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I what way do you believe that Mooney is obligated to provide updates to the ICA post production and in anyway make as owners in anyway obligated to follow them? The reasoning you are quoting all stems from the misunderstood term of "current" as used in the context of Section 91.409(f)(3) of the regulations, which permits the operator to rely on “the current inspection program recommended by the manufacturer.” The FAA chief legal counsel memo has held that "current" as referenced makes it clear this phrase means the program at the time it was initially published, and it does not include the subsequent amendments to the program. The chief counsel memo goes on to explain that "if "current" was allowed to mean an ongoing obligation, manufacturers unilaterally could impose regulatory burdens on individuals through changes to their inspection programs or maintenance manuals. In essence, they would be making rules that members of the public affected by the change would have to follow." Which thankfully the FAA realizes none of us really want. For a good read on this see: https://www.aea.net/AvionicsNews/ANArchives/LegalEaseSept09.pdf So clearly Mooney is not legally able to issue updates to the ICA that we are bound too. And although I am not an attorney, I have seen no valid argument so far that convinces me that Mooney has any legal obligation to provide a WAAS update based on ICA requirements or FARs. Their legal obligation may be limited to what marketing promises they make at the time of sale. But as Bob has pointed out, if such an obligation did exist, even these are likely no longer appliacable to the new Mooney company currently responsible. I think in truth, Mooney only has a moral obligation and one to maintain their marketing reputation. I certainly have no inside knowledge of their plans but I believe like most others here they will eventually get to it. But we have also seen Garmin provide an ADS-B solution for these with the Gtx-345 - it just needs the optional WAAS gps and will not entirely integrate its functionality till the G1000 can get the newer s/w which I presume won't be till the Mooney G1000 WAAS update. But meeting ADS-B compliance is doable right now. Which unfortunately kinds takes off some of the pressure for Mooney to certify the WAAS G1000 upgrade.
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We see them both ways, higher and lower. I would never have them on my aircraft since with these you never know what the real CHT temperatures are. This problem of co-locating a heater element in the cylinder bayonet hole with a CHT probe has been solved by Tanis, which is what I use. But I don't know if they are compatible with your Reif but they just need 120v for the heater portion and Tanis makes them for all kinds of engine monitors and power sources. Here is an example of one of there threaded heater elemts with dual probe in K type probe http://www.tanisaircraft.com/tt02633-uk-115-50.html
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No, 30 gals is the max additional for 252's & Encores because they all have speed brakes installed, but the 231's or pre '86 airframes without speed brakes will get 36 gals additional with the mod.
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You may not really care, but when useful load is at a premium it pays off not to round off to whole numbers when doing your calculations since you will gain 15 lbs of payload with long range tanks filled. For example, using the proper fuel weight for 100LL your payload with standard tanks only filled is at 394.0 lbs and payload with long range tanks filled then becomes 219.4 or 15 lbs more than you were giving yourself. I'll personally take every pound i can since I rarely fly solo. My 252's useful load is 892 lbs with 115 ft3 O2 and all the other options including dual alternators. And about to grow by another 230 lbs max gross increase from the Encore mod. I keep my plane on a diet!!
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Actually Mike, that wasn't in Slims upgraded 252 to Encore (which was sold to Henry) but in his new pressurized PT6 Meridian (or maybe Malibu) at the Grand Canyon airport taxing off the runway as you describe. I remember pretty well because I was next door hangar neighbors with Slim at MYF at the time - but this was over a decade ago!!
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Foothill Aircraft Sales in SoCal PIREP
kortopates replied to NotarPilot's topic in General Mooney Talk
Finding problems early is when you can save yourself from big expenses later; such as corrosion. Plus the issue found early could save you from a real emergency in air later. Just saying but wanting to truly know the condition of my aircraft and intimately know it's systems is why I went to A&P school (nights after my engineering day job). Sorry, but I don't even know anyone that has used Foothill. I can only recommend CrownAir further south in San Diego. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk -
Very cool! Plus the chart can be displayed as overlay on the map or in split screen mode next too the map. Don, have you seen if the Jepp documentation also comes across into Garmin Pilot? (Wondering if I can ditch JeppFD?) Marauder, $149 for the entire US coverage is a good discount. I pay more just for the West but it includes displaying them on my panel so I get 4 devices. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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I agree with Andy that this is likely from operating at too high of TIT. I prefer to see TIT limited to below 1600 except for short periods during leaning or doing LOP mag checks etc. I don't know specifically about the exhaust part shown, but it's generally always more affordable to have it repaired by an aviation welder. They can replace whatever amount of material is needed to make it like new. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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M20K 14V Dual Alternator trouble
kortopates replied to juergenklicker's topic in General Mooney Talk
Both Voltage regulators are intended to be set to the same bus voltage. On a 14V system they should be set in the range of 13.8 to 14.1 V for battery longevity. That said, Alternator #2 will carry most of the load because it is belt driven and running at a higher RPM than the engine driven #1. But during your run up, part of your checklist is to fail #2 (by turning off the field rocker switch for #2) and you should see #1 pick up the load. Bus voltage should remain in the proper range above on either alternator alone. -
I believe its a 1/2" to 3/8" adapter i.e. the male end is 1/2" ( not a 3/8" to 1/2" which has a 3/8" male end). Its mandatory to fit the 3/8" torque wrench into the 1/2" size gear rigging tool. But I don't recall mine changing the clock position - but I could be wrong since I have never really thought about it. I have always been able to put the torque wrench on at the 3'oclock position to the gear rigging tool on the mains (which is the only one of the two tools I use on mine).
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Honestly I would be more worried about the fiber lock nut. That's incorrect, the TCM IPC calls for a metal locknut. I'd correct that with the proper hardware. Fiber locknuts have no place in the hot engine compartment. The adel clamps are also not the common ones available from places like Spruce but a special p/n that you'll only find from TCM - still available from Spruce since they are a TCM parts supplier but at 5x the normal adel clamp price!. Otherwise the key thing is the clamps and hose are not chaffing against the oil filter (its very tight clearance there) or anything else. I also recall their is a proper orientation for the low point on one of the check valves (i.e. separate from the arrow direction ).
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Look at the C-Mod chart. Are those "miles" at the bottom Nautical or Statute? In the old Bonanza charts...they are statute. So his 1.9 "miles" per 1,000 feet could be statute. If that is the case, 1.9 sm = 1.65 nm...which sounds reasonable for a retract like us. From the mid-body on planes using Kts (instead of MPH) publish distances in NM, the 2 bladed vs 3 bladed props make the biggest difference in glide range with most 2 bladed props getting very close to 2nm per 1000' agl. Of course the prop needs to be full back to get max glide range but the note below the graph on the Ovation above is confusing since it suggest you may get better than depicted with the prop control full back as opposed to saying it's required in the graph. Good luck on the book. I'll have to check it out. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Looking at the picture it looks like you may have excessive oil leakage in your cylinder so you might want to pull that plug after a short interval of time just to see how its doing. Looking at your engine monitor data recognize your highest EGT on #3 is by no means a high outlier; not at 8-11F above the other 3. With those caveats above, if you want to check the health of your mixture distribution system (i.e. Gami spread) and ignition system I highly suggest you run our Savvy test profile, download the data and then upload it to SavvyAnalysis.Com and you can follow our write-up for how to interpret the data here: https://www.savvyanalysis.com/articles/in-flight-diagnostics (its all free) I am saying this because looking at a point in time temperatures does absolutely nothing to separate ignition issues from mixture issues. One really needs the independent test to make any conclusive findings. Before you run the test profile though I suggest you set your EDM monitor sampling interval to ~2 second data sampling rate from the default of 6 if not done already. If by chance you get a mixture spread of worse than 0.5 GPH, don't give up right away but clean the injectors and try again. Its unlikely your Lyc IO-360 will need Gami's to achieve 0.5 GPH or better but they do help. But I would recommend not purchasing them till the testing shows you need them. If you you find it runs rough as you lean it out, at the very least the test profile is going to show which cylinder, at what degree LOP what is the roughness from. However, if you want to run it conservatively at 60% power that is fine. But realize that is a low enough power setting that it doesn't matter where you leave the mixture. You can run it at peak safely at 60% if temps remain low, and if not run it above or below peak just enough to keep the CHTs below 380F which looks like is not going to be an issue for you. Once you go above 60% you'll want to run it sufficiently LOP or ROP in cruise to keep it out of the red box: https://www.jpinstruments.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Mike-Bush-Red-BoxRed-Fin.pdf One last caveat though - don't trust your engine monitor though to tell you what is 60% power; especially LOP. Use the simple formula to do so manually (e.g. GPH*appropriate-multiplier/total HP= %power;for you 14.9 should be the multiplier) That should help you get going.