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Jerry, Nice to see the comparison of complete data sets. Thanks for sharing. It is interesting to see the entire flight (including run-up) as seen by your battery...Zeftronics give a real smooth control. - a -

Nice catch... For your reference... I have looked up Elevator and Aileron Control Systems on page 113 of the Parts Catalog (june 1973 rev) The drawing is relevent to M20C,D,E,F The drawing in figure 28 shows bolt heads facing outwards on the "elvator Horns". Item 52 is a bolt and two washers. It looks like the corresponding item 51 includes the nut along with the bungee assemblies. - a -

How does one change the bulb out of a mooney enunciator panel? The gear down bulb no longer lights. No light comes on when the test button is pushed. Fortunately the gear is down with the floor mounted indicator and light bulb working properly. Should I be looking for anything else? Thanks, - Anthony -

Balou, I was trying to help, but all I found is.... C, D, and E are shown to be the same in the parts catalog. Catalog only gives part# not dimensions. My M20C POH does not give dimensions (only weight restrictions). M20R POH - Entry height 20.5", Entry width 17", Ground to bottom of sill 46". Maybe someone with a C, D or E can help you with your E question.

The data included here may help others research their oponent or better understand the mode of that person's operation. Keep up the good work. The challenges keep coming.... J. H. Edwards Company, Jeff Edwards Mailing Address: p o box 6070 City: LOS OSOS Zip Code: 93412 Is this the same person? http://www.smartvoter.org/2000/11/07/ca/slo/vote/edwards_j/ "top priorities if elected: Be honest with the community...." 2000 - he was not elected.... This is a post from calcoastnews.com. Apparently someone is familiar with the other Jeff Edwards projects. Jeff Edwards will cause havoc in poor little Oceano as he always has everywhere he’s been, I know, I live in Los Osos. Falsifying Geological reports, DUI’s, not paying his bills, bankruptcy and even wife stealing are in his past. Ever know a type A with smarts but just can’t play it straight? As a planning consultant his professional advice to prospective home buiders in Los Osos where a protected snail and rat dwell is Snarol and D-Con. Illegal grading is also suggested. The only thing good that will come from him “working” in Oceano is he won’t be “working” in Los Osos at that moment. Consider these accusations the tipof the iceberg. -justme

Jeff, Consider that a similar business plan works for AVIS. I often rent cars and before I carried a portable GPS, I would rent a portable GPS at additional cost to whatever the car retal fees were. Eventually I bought the one that is appropriate for me (garmin, believe it or not), and I stopped renting quickly. You might consider who your customer really is. Direct rental to customers renting airplanes, aircraft owners, or FBOs that are renting out the aircraft and possibly subletting YOUR GPS package. You might get interesting feedback from your local FBO and flightschool. They might be helpful, they might be your competition.... (I imagine some rent headsets and GPS already along with chart sales and candybars) Ideas from the top of my head...Good luck. - Anthony -

Trying to close the loop...... Quote: JimR This could be a good deal for one of you guys. I'm not affiliated in any way with the seller. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mooney-m20-201-cowl-mod_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem19ba4ecb46QQitemZ110499908422QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

NewHeights, I like your reasoning... Wow, that panel has left no stone unturned. I am sure Parker covered the details, I am curious, could you share what the story is behind the mismatched timing of: OH, Top, and New Prop? I recommend, at least be aware and be comfortable with the reasoning yourself. The initial set-up usually can go 2,000hrs. This one went about 1,000 prior to FRM, then a follow-up replacement of cylinders, then a new prop. Wishing you good luck completing your purchase and best regards, - Anthony -

Taxiing with flaps down used to be an indication of an intruder on board (flight training in the 90's). It will probably get you some attention from other pilots...?

When considering the manifold pressure based back-up vacuum systems... Take a look at their limitations. At wide-open throttle they may not have the pressure differential required to drive the instruments. On the east coast, this might not be as important. At high altitudes, partially open throttle to acheive acceptable vacuum differential may not be enough power to maintain altitude. My plane was originally delivered with an engine driven back-up pump and subsequently been changed to an electric motor driven back-up pump. When all else fails, I have electric TC and compass for traditional partial panel. In 500 hours of flying, I have not experienced loss of vacuum. I have lost electricity twice. (1 controller failure, 1 generator failure) -anthony-

I used sideslips for my M20C often. Always making sure nose is down and airspeed maintained. Entering and exiting the slip smoothly / gently. There is no desire to let the tail wag by over or undercontrolling. PK, I have been reviewing the POH for the M20R (longbody) Slips are mentioned 3 times: cross wind landing, door closing in flight, fuel gauge accuracy only during coordinated flight. It is a normal category airplane, so slips are acceptable (with normal precautions to avoid stall / spin). Otherwise, speed brakes are used for additional speed control. Directly to answer the question: The POH (Section IV - Landing) recommends crab until flare, touch down with slight wing low side slip. (Caution: YOUR POH may vary) The C and the R seem to be at maximum up trim during the landing phase (with two people on board).

It seems no final answer was given... The M20R has an airspeed sensitive switch to keep the gear from retracting until flying speed is reached. No squat switches are used. If the switch fails to operate, the gear will not be raised. The red button next to the gear switch is the overide that allows the raising of the landing gear. The hobbs in the M20R is activated by the engine running. Might you have one of these on your plane? Check the POH for futher details...

Thanks Mitch, The huffingtonpost.com article supplies good logic. It is worth the few minutes to read. -anthony-

My 65 C had the short rudder. It's greatest beauty feature was its rectangular windows. It had a one piece windscreen when I got it. I suppose an upgrade by one of the previous owners. Flush rivets, stainless camlocks, Johnson bar and manual hydraulic flaps. Lots of zinc chromate, It had a separate gyro for the PC system. The gyro was mounted next to the vacuum system that raises the step. Biggest drawback: shotgun instrument placement and non-standard engine control layout... Best news: All of this can be improved upon, see some of the instrument panel layouts in photo galleries. -anthony-

1994 M20R (SE) is showing 1,051# UL from Section VI in the POH (W& has 89Gal usable fuel and burns 14 - 16 gal/hr in level flight. -anthony-

Missile, upgraded L and M20R: They are all different, and they each meet different missions. I like the idea of full feathering, it significantly increases glide ratio with a dead engine. Unfortunately, It also goes to full feather with a dead gear pump or a simple leaky shaft seal. My M20C had a shaft seal failure on take-off, prop failed to high RPM. No big deal, return to airport and have mechanic reset the seal (O/H the prop, new generator belt and buy a new governor while your in there...). Having the prop go to full feather right after departure would have had me filling out the thread about off airport landings.... (what's the chance of having a leaky shaft seal?) I like the options of the different N/A six cylinder engines in an M20 frame. The M20R is MY best fit. I think the Rocket Engineering folks had such a great idea, the MAC factory and Porsche guys tried to improve on it. From my wish list: I would like a prop control that I could select to go high RPM vs. full feather. (pick your solution to the emergency) -a-

Compare the converted L with a 550 to a missile with a 550 and then to an M20R with a 550. Depending on condition, they overlap in price range. The R is the only one originally designed to handle the 550 and can carry 1,000+ LBs of UL. I like all of them, but, I went with the R... Mitch, your thoughts? - anthony -

I used the airtex also. Carpet was already cut and edged and fit extremely well in my M20C. I later purchased the matching side pieces. They were mounted on "rigid" plastic board. Much nicer than the originals... Airtex can also install their products for you. This could save you money over having your local guy struggle with it. (Trenton, NJ - KTTN) is one of their locations. Since you are looking for savings, the only other thing I can offer is the fact that you will probably only have to do this once. You get what you expect when you order from Airtex. - anthony -

I'm glad to hear you switched to the modern technology. I look forward to the comparison graphs. When I switched to the solid state version, I physically destroyed the mechanical device. I figure it was the cause for the early demise of a handful of batteries, at least one generator and countless flights missed by the downtime it caused..... Airflow may not be the best in that area, but I did not ever have electrical problems again. I'm sure the old technology was well appreciated in 1930... I wish there was as simple a solution for magnetos....

Ebay is often a source of unique and hard to find POH, and parts and service manuals. I bought original 1965 manuals for my M20C. While searching for an upgrade, I purchased a CD of 201 manuals. The Bravo may be slightly more scarce, but if it is available, Ebay could be the place..... - anthony -

Does anyone measure air temperature before and after the intercooler? The car guys trying to minimize chance of detonation will often notice a 75 deg F lowering of charge air temperature at or near sea level. (not alot, but still useful, especially in the summer months). The plane guys will find rejecting heat to the atmosphere valuable also. (not alot available from an intercooler at altitude, but still useful) Under some conditions, managing the turbo ROP probably can balance out whether there is an intercooler or not. Four ways to reject heat (from the engine to the atmosphere). Air cooling, ROP, lower intake air temp, oil cooling. At high power settings it is probably helpful to use all of the cooling available. For me, all too complex for casual east coast flying. I applaud the extra efforts the turbo guys put in. For those on the mission of fly highest, fly fastest - control boost, cool every way possible, and run best power ROP? - Anthony -

http://www.jpitech.com/faq.php Under the FAQ section you can also find the ROP procedure vs. the LOP procedure. This may be important if your cylinders don't all peak at the same FF. For ROP it uses the first cylinder to peak. For LOP it uses the last cylinder to peak. It would be nice to have the FF data on the EDM. During Lean Find it will capture the FF at Peak EGT. It is less challenging to adjust FF to get the expected EGT. less trial and error than try to adjust mixture and wait for EGT, adjust mixture and wait for EGT, adjust mixture and wait for EGT. I'm going to take George's advice and watch the videos.

So, does the stall warning indicate AOA in any way, more or less? Excellent technical discussion above. I was interested in AOA so as I near the runway, I can flare with a known margin of safety. Realistically airspeed is used for this. However, my eyes are outside the cockpit for this part of the flight. I don't think I could watch either the airspeed or AOA at that point. The stall horn warning however occurs audibly prior to critical AOA. horn silent AOA below critical, horn blairing AOA near or at impending critical AOA. Please note: I offer to trade seat time in an M20R for comparisons in an F/A-18A-F (or similar).

This actually applies to a family of KLN 89, 90, 90A, 900 and then some.... What method do you use to update your database? [1] Web download to PC, then upload to GPS. [2] Disk in mail, then upload to GPS. [3] Remove GPS and sub out data card. I tried to upload a new data base (first time for me) from honeywell/bendix king today to no avail. The RS232 cable that is neatly stowed in a side pocket can be traced to the back of the radio stack. Unfortunately, it behaved as it was not attached to anything. The laptop tried to send the data. the GPS was in the ready to receive mode (SET 0, CRSR, ENT, ENT). All I got was a message that indicated that the database loader was not ready. Is there a way to test if the PC and GPS are communicating? (I got good results downloading data out of the JPI EDM - different cable / software of course) Thanks for any tips or insight. - anthony -

Newport is fabulous. While you are in the neighborhood, look up.... Westerly Rhode Island and Block Island, which are also near by. Westerly gives access to Mystic Seaport and Aquarium if you like tall ships and fish. Plenty of restaurants that serve the day's catch. Mystic has many of the major hotel chains and of course Mystic Pizza (for the Julia fans). Block Island is great for hiking through quaint New England Fishing village type places...It is more compact than Martha's Vineyard or Nantucket (all of them are nice). Further up the coast is Cape Cod. Hyannis (Home of the Kennedy's) gives access to the Mid-Cape area. Plenty of touristy things to do. Finally, at the tip of the cape, is Provincetown (P-Town). A unique "artist community" with great (Great for New England) beaches and other interesting facets. The Pilgrims first stopped in P-Town prior to moving inland to Plymouth. All of these places have a few things in common. A rental car, although not required, is recommended. Otherwise Taxis are a good solution. The other thing they have in common - they are way off-season right now. It looks like you are planning for warmer weather? These are spots I like to visit. I usually use 5B6 (Falmouth Airpark) and stay at a relative's house a short walk away. Your mileage may v..... - anthony -