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I think you pay an additional $6,000 less any discount. And then you can watch online to see if/when they actually build it.

Interesting letter. But it is still unclear... If I buy into the "Assurance" Program for $6,000/yr and I need a part that cost $6,000, does Lasar just send it to me? Or do I pay an additional $6K on top of my "Assurance" payments?

And did you all read the last line of the announcement? "we're exploring an option for qualified owners who wish to become shareholders of Mooney." LASAR keeps saying "Transparency, Transparency". Is Lasar acting as a "broker" to help existing shareholders get out and sell their shares (i.e. money goes into pockets of exiting shareholders"). Or are they acting as a broker to sell new shares of Mooney which puts cash in the pocket of Mooney? Buying shares in Mooney gets you nothing other than liability.

Well for those that want more "attention" than the $6K/year Gold Program will bring, there is the 10 years of Gold Program paid up front - You put a lumpsum $25K in LASAR's hand to "anchor your support". And does that $25K get you? Ability to see the parts website....discounts if you actually spend more cash to buy parts......factory tours...."backstage moments at shows like Oshkosh". But no mention of that money - $200, 350, 500/month, $6K per year or lumpsum of $25K buying any Parts. Am I missing something? Can someone explain this statement? "We're also working on a price-protection stack that combines Member pricing on Mooney-sourced parts with participating MSC discounts where available, so you won't be paying full Retail when the network can do better." What MSC "discounts"? I thought the earlier announcement said that LASAR would be responsible for all parts distribution - to the other MSC's Yet after paying $25K it sounds like you might be paying full retail with no discount

In the last 10 years, I have probably spent $300 on Mooney parts. Mostly bushings and wing fuel dials. It seems like a bad deal to spend $25000 to guarantee that I can get a discount on $300 worth of parts. Spending twice as much isn’t such a bad deal.

Please explain to me how would spending 2-6k a year make me feel better about flying my plane witout getting any tangible benefit for my money? Maybe I am missing something here. This seems to be very much like the various extended waranty offers that I get in my e-mail about my aging cars and home.

The wife and I flew to San Luis Obispo on Sunday. I was originally going to land at Oceanio, but I got a good deal on a rental car at SBP. On line people were saying there was county transient parking by the tower. While I was taxiing in I told ground that I wanted to go to transient parking. The ground controller said I could only park there for 2 hours. And the only overnight parking was at the FBO. So I taxied over to ACI. They were very nice and treated me well. When I went to leave they said the parking for 4 days was $195! WTF!? I was mad as hell. I said The comments on line said parking was $12 per night. They said it would have been $12 if I would have parked in transient parking. ??? I said the tower said that was not possible. They succumbed to my complaining and didn’t charge me a ramp fee, so it only cost $40 per night to park on their ramp. I will never deal with ACI ever again and I won’t be going back to SLO cal.

A step works great in the hangar. I used one for years. But seriously: Once the aircraft is outside, to use it before startup or after shutdown, you have to have outside assistance.

So what do other MSC's do? How do they order parts? - do they have to join the program to see what parts are available/and when they will be available? And what about the lone Mooney capable A&P that so many of us rely upon for Maintenace and Annuals? How do they see what parts are available or how do they order them? Does this put more burden upon the Owners to scrounge for their parts from LASAR via the "Assurance Program"?

Even on $200k planes, an extra $6k a year isn't making sense imo.

I think @Hank is saying that it is "not aimed at" Vintage Owners due to the cost vs. the value of owners' Vintage Mooney's. Throwing an additional $500/month or $6K/year at a $80K Mooney is harder to justify than throwing the same at a $200K Mooney. I don't think the program is only for modern Mooney's The picture on the first page of the "Assurance Program" link shows N3674N, a 1968 M20G Statesman, the same as is on the LASAR webpage.

How about some airplane noise? Sort repositioning flight. Note the new Vector Plane Pass equipment in the thumbnail. -dan

The previous owner installed an ACK-04 before I bought the airplane in 2018. It’s coming up on ten yeas of flawless operation. Tests good at every annual and got me a call from the SAR folks when I set it off accidentally inside a metal hangar for only a few seconds. I’d buy it again.

I’m confused. So this program is only for owners of modern Mooneys? Even so, there seems to be very scarce information as to specific benefits like what parts will be available right off the bat, what pricing looks like, how much of a discount does each tier get, what production schedule is being proposed, etc., I’m not trying to shoot this down. I think there should be more information. It is also concerning and bewildering that parts ordering is completely removed from the Lasar website. Tim

This program is not aimed at Vintage owners. But if you had put several hundred AMUs into buying your Mooney, this proposal might make you feel better about flying it into the future.

I want to support Mooney parts production but this value proposition for owners is not compelling at all. $2000/year minimum for extremely nebulous (at best) benefits and no details on what parts or discounts might be available is not compelling.

So they're selling what? An equity stake in lasar? No? Well what, then? Frankly the website smells of a scam artist. YGBSM....

the following with a detachable cotton lanyard has replaced my fixed step

Ya this is a very steep insurance policy into a business that could entirely possibly disappear in a couple of years (because that's just how things work with such a small market base).

As the OP of this post I should have said what I decided: I went with the Artex 345, and so far (1 year in) it’s all good.

I am curious what "exclusive discount" would one get for $6,000 a year? What if you do not need any Mooney parts for 5 years - just flushed $30k donwn the toilet unless you find the "quarterly briefings" (whatever that may be) valuable. I am all for helping LASAR stay in business and maintain the fleet, but somehow I fail to see the value propositiion for plane owners here. The site does not offer much in tems of specifics. Looks like "access to portal" that shows what parts are available will now be paid . Do you have to be a member to buy parts? As some other members observed, the parts link is gone from Lasar's site and since Mooney does not sell parts any more, it seems that we are collectively SOL for any parts needed. Not even Rolls Royce dealerships charge monthly fee for the pribvilege of having access to their website

The Mooney Assurance Program was rolled out at MooneyMAX in Branson Mo today. Looking forward to MMGA Making Mooney Great Again

Hello, I had an A&P install a fuel pressure gauge that came off a 80s model M20J on my 83 M20J. The reason being was that the stock fuel pressure gauge was removed when the panel was redone and a EDM 830 was installed. Attached is a photo of the back of the gauge. The power wire is coming from the USB breaker to (IGN) side. The center nut has a wire from the transducer and a ground wire, that is grounded to the screw on the airframe. The nut on the left side of photo is the other wire from transducer. Every time I turn on the master, the breaker on the USB pops. I tried several different grounds and it still pops every time the master is turned on. Is the wiring correct? The gauge is installed on the plastic area next to flap switch, so the housing for the gauge is not mounted to metal. Thank you,

Using the fixed step is a Minor Alteration and only needs an A&P sign off.

Thoughts? Their kids are headed to college on the Mooney Pilot Scholarship plan