Oscar Avalle Posted March 25, 2013 Report Posted March 25, 2013 Hi guys, May be one can help me... I have a Garmin 750 and a 430 in my M20C, with the latest software and databases... I am trying to make them talk to each other (crossfill), but to no avail... may be somebody had the same problem... and found a solution for this lack of communication.. (sounds like marriage counselling). In advance, thank you for your suggestions... and jokes... Quote
Marauder Posted March 26, 2013 Report Posted March 26, 2013 Oscar - I will check my manual to see if it is possible. I know that the GTN series has the ability to load airways. Can you do that on a 430/530? Quote
Marauder Posted March 26, 2013 Report Posted March 26, 2013 Oscar - from what I see in the manual crossfill is only available for 2 similar units like 2 GTNs or 2 430s. Quote
Piloto Posted March 26, 2013 Report Posted March 26, 2013 Hi guys, May be one can help me... I have a Garmin 750 and a 430 in my M20C, with the latest software and databases... I am trying to make them talk to each other (crossfill), but to no avail... may be somebody had the same problem... and found a solution for this lack of communication.. (sounds like marriage counselling). In advance, thank you for your suggestions... and jokes... What would they talk about? 1 Quote
Oscar Avalle Posted March 26, 2013 Author Report Posted March 26, 2013 Oscar - from what I see in the manual crossfill is only available for 2 similar units like 2 GTNs or 2 430s. I was told that they would be able to exchange flight plans and way points... Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD Quote
Marauder Posted March 26, 2013 Report Posted March 26, 2013 What would they talk about? The weather! What else?! Quote
Marauder Posted March 26, 2013 Report Posted March 26, 2013 I was told that they would be able to exchange flight plans and way points... Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD I don't have a 430 or 530 and by no means an expert. If I am not mistaken, the GTN series has victor airways and the GNS does not. If this is the case, I suspect it would be impossible to download a flight plan with victor airways into the 430. it might be possible to cross fill compatible flight plans. Hopefully someone can clear this up. All I know is when I read the manual it states two GTNs, no mention of previous generations. Quote
Bob_Belville Posted March 26, 2013 Report Posted March 26, 2013 FWIW, my 750 shares flight plans with the 696... not sure it will share flight plans in the other direction. Quote
Piloto Posted March 26, 2013 Report Posted March 26, 2013 The weather! What else?! Sequestration. Now that over 100 towers are getting closed they need the database to be updated to UNICOM due to our friend at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. Even the Garmins can feel the effect. José Quote
Marauder Posted March 26, 2013 Report Posted March 26, 2013 Sequestration. Now that over 100 towers are getting closed they need the database to be updated to UNICOM due to our friend at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. Even the Garmins can feel the effect. José Oscar's crossfill issue has nothing to do with the shutdown. If he has an outdated database, he will just be cross filling bad data. As for the shutdown, CTAF will be there. Many of these airports close at night today and leave CTAF available. The bigger issue will be the charts denoting the change from Class D. Garmin, Seattle Avionics, ForeFlight and Jepp all get their data from the feds via electronic media. The electronic updates will be the easiest. It is the paper documents that will be a challenge. Quote
Marauder Posted March 26, 2013 Report Posted March 26, 2013 I would also expect that many of the airports will be impacted 1 way or another for IFR procedures. Especially those that provide manual weather updates via ATIS. Quote
Piloto Posted March 26, 2013 Report Posted March 26, 2013 What did the 750 said to the 430: 750: "You are and old clunky GPS with no touch". 430: "Yeah but I am not flat. You wish you had these babies (knobs) for Oscar to grab and twist. Oooh it feels good every time he grabs them." 3 Quote
rbridges Posted March 26, 2013 Report Posted March 26, 2013 What did the 750 said to the 430: 750: "You are and old clunky GPS with no touch". 430: "Yeah but I am not flat. You wish you had these babies (knobs) for Oscar to grab and twist. Oooh it feels good every time he grabs them." Gross. I have to go burn my 430 now. Quote
PTK Posted March 26, 2013 Report Posted March 26, 2013 Hi guys, May be one can help me... I have a Garmin 750 and a 430 in my M20C, with the latest software and databases... I am trying to make them talk to each other (crossfill), but to no avail... may be somebody had the same problem... and found a solution for this lack of communication.. (sounds like marriage counselling). In advance, thank you for your suggestions... and jokes... Oscar, they will talk once you have the new 3.0 software on the GTN and iirc the 5.0 on the GNS. That GNS software is not out just yet. Quote
Oscar Avalle Posted March 26, 2013 Author Report Posted March 26, 2013 Hi guys, May be one can help me... I have a Garmin 750 and a 430 in my M20C, with the latest software and databases... I am trying to make them talk to each other (crossfill), but to no avail... may be somebody had the same problem... and found a solution for this lack of communication.. (sounds like marriage counselling). In advance, thank you for your suggestions... and jokes... Oscar, they will talk once you have the new 3.0 software on the GTN and iirc the 5.0 on the GNS. That GNS software is not out just yet. Thank you. That is helpful. So lets wait... Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD Quote
Oscar Avalle Posted March 26, 2013 Author Report Posted March 26, 2013 What did the 750 said to the 430: 750: "You are and old clunky GPS with no touch". 430: "Yeah but I am not flat. You wish you had these babies (knobs) for Oscar to grab and twist. Oooh it feels good every time he grabs them." Gross. I have to go burn my 430 now. The problem is I often touch, twist and turn the knobs at the wrong time...and the I don't know what to do... Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD Quote
Marauder Posted March 26, 2013 Report Posted March 26, 2013 Thanks for the info Allsmiles. BTW - I just received notification that 4.0 is now available for the GTN series. Quote
flyboy0681 Posted March 26, 2013 Report Posted March 26, 2013 I have the 750 installation manual in pdf format. PM me with your email address if you want me to send you a copy. Quote
PTK Posted March 26, 2013 Report Posted March 26, 2013 Thanks for the info Allsmiles. BTW - I just received notification that 4.0 is now available for the GTN series. Really? I wasn't aware there was a 4.0 already Marauder. The last I know about was the 3.0 for the GTN. Quote
Marauder Posted March 26, 2013 Report Posted March 26, 2013 Yeah, me think I got on some secret, decoder ring required distribution list. Here is what they sent: Garmin Update.pdf Quote
Oscar Avalle Posted March 26, 2013 Author Report Posted March 26, 2013 Yeah, me think I got on some secret, decoder ring required distribution list. Here is what they sent: I got an email about 4.0 too. But I believe that it is more for our helicopter friends than for us. I also looked into the beech boys forum and indeed it is not for us. Quote
PTK Posted March 26, 2013 Report Posted March 26, 2013 This is SB 1314 which doesn't apply to GTNs installed as per STC. Quote
Marauder Posted March 26, 2013 Report Posted March 26, 2013 This is SB 1314 which doesn't apply to GTNs installed as per STC. There are parts that do pertain to non-helicopter functions: • Added support for ARINC 429 Radar Altimeter input • Added enhanced lighting curves for backlight and keypad lighting • Added enhanced Map Range Ring markings • Added support for metric fuel units • Increased allowable manual input of fuel flow and quantity • GTN 7XX only; added pilot-on-the-right configuration to audio panel control layout and 3D audio COM Software Version 2.11 contains the following change from Version 2.10: • Added changes to support future removal of limitation that precludes 16W installations in 14 volt aircraft. GMA 35 Software Version 3.05 contains the following changes from Version 2.20: • Improved compatibility with KFC/KAP autopilot systems (Installation Bulletin 1213) • Adjusted relative volume during 3D Audio mode Quote
flyboy0681 Posted March 26, 2013 Report Posted March 26, 2013 There are parts that do pertain to non-helicopter functions: Isn't there a double negative in there someplace? Quote
Marauder Posted March 26, 2013 Report Posted March 26, 2013 Isn't there a double negative in there someplace? How about if I state it this way? In an endeavor to provide deep rooted recurrent customer satisfaction, there are sections of the aforementioned document relevant to fixed aerodynamic foil, heavier than air vehicles. Quote
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