I really messed up... misjudged winds and tried to land in the wrong direction...

[Andy95W]

1 minute ago, Skates97 said:

This is going to depend on what model/year you are flying. If you have hydraulic flaps there is a lever you push down and pump the flaps to lower. To raise you lift the lever which brings the flaps all the way up. Good luck trying to raise your flaps to takeoff position from full flaps.

If the release screw is set correctly, it shouldn’t be that bad. On mine for a go around I lift the lever for a three-count and push it back down. That’s really close to take off flaps.

I hope you, your family, and your friends are okay with the fires in LA, Richard. 

[Skates97]

8 minutes ago, Andy95W said:

If the release screw is set correctly, it shouldn’t be that bad. On mine for a go around I lift the lever for a three-count and push it back down. That’s really close to take off flaps.

I hope you, your family, and your friends are okay with the fires in LA, Richard. 

Understand the set screw, mine takes about 5+ seconds in the air to retract completely so I could do the same, but it's just an extra step.  Power, positive rate, gear up, flaps up works very well for me.

Appreciate the concern, thankfully we are fine. We're in northeast Orange County in Yorba Linda so a long way from the fires in LA. We had some strong winds, gusting in the 40-50mph range but nothing compared to the 50-100+mph they had over in Ventura County and the foothills of LA where the fires are.

[Steve Dawson]

Something similar happened to me when I was making a night landing at an unfamiliar airport. I was watching my airspeed and when I was close to landing I felt very uncomfortable and noticed how fast I was going. I think the wind was around 10-15 G 20. Very lucky I didn't run out of runways so I went around knowing I screwed up and then turned a 180 and landed the proper way, against the wind.

Because of that I now on every landing during on short final, I check my IAS against my ground speed just to confirm the wind direction. If your IAS is 70 and your GS is faster, then you've a tailwind. And of course if the IAS is 70 and your GS is the same or less you've a head wind and your ground roll will be book or less. 

[flyboy0681]

I haven't seen any posts mentioning what I'm about to ask..  Your panel is outfitted with state-of-the-art equipment and I assume that, like my dinky GI-275, that it's capable of displaying wind speed and direction. I've made it a habit of checking it while on final and it almost always agrees with what the tower and/or AWOS are reporting. Did you reference it?

[Danb]

Agreed one of my major system checks. Also regarding when we lower the gear may be a personal choice although it’s a good habit to do it the same unless conditions warrant a different choice. Each of are models are different some very different, my acclaim is much harder to slow down than my two J models and closer to my Bravo but still more difficult. I barely used speed brakes on my other Mooneys but it’s needed more often in the Acclaim 

[201Steve]

On 1/12/2025 at 11:12 AM, Oscar Avalle said:

Absolutely. I messed up great. There were many things that could and should have guided me... but I got tunnel vision and thought that I was right... Well I wasn't.... 

you made a simple error. Happens to me on every single flight in some area or another.  Nobody hurt? You did great. 

[Oscar Avalle]

On 1/13/2025 at 11:12 AM, flyboy0681 said:

I haven't seen any posts mentioning what I'm about to ask..  Your panel is outfitted with state-of-the-art equipment and I assume that, like my dinky GI-275, that it's capable of displaying wind speed and direction. I've made it a habit of checking it while on final and it almost always agrees with what the tower and/or AWOS are reporting. Did you reference it?

I did refence it and that was one of the problems. Instead of looking outside and checking the waves or the trees, i tried to interpret the windspeed snd direction indicator. At 1500 feet it was favoring the runway I used which was the wrong one. But again my mistake. You have to be careful with those indications when you just are out of a turn. It takes a while to stabilize.