Timeline PIREP for JPI/CIES

[TheAv8r]

I have an avionics project that was planned to start June 27th, all parts were ordered mid-May based on the timeline shared by both JPI & CIES of 4-6 weeks. We're now at the 3rd week of July, the CIES Senders just shipped today and the JPI 930 is estimating 2 more weeks until it ships which puts my panel work starting at the end of the first week of August, 6 weeks delayed from starting. This would put the JPI at 11 weeks since order was placed, and the CIES senders at 9 weeks, so just sharing a PIREP for anyone considering an Oshkosh rebate upgrade to plan 8-11 weeks of lead time .

[alextstone]

1 hour ago, Alex M said:

I have an avionics project that was planned to start June 27th, all parts were ordered mid-May based on the timeline shared by both JPI & CIES of 4-6 weeks. We're now at the 3rd week of July, the CIES Senders just shipped today and the JPI 930 is estimating 2 more weeks until it ships which puts my panel work starting at the end of the first week of August, 6 weeks delayed from starting. This would put the JPI at 11 weeks since order was placed, and the CIES senders at 9 weeks, so just sharing a PIREP for anyone considering an Oshkosh rebate upgrade to plan 8-11 weeks of lead time .

I've waited 8 months for a gasket set from Lycoming

[KSMooniac]

Supply chain issues are rampant... Garmin is even worse from my understanding.

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[kortopates]

even basic supplies are a challenge right now, even grease!


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[Wildhorsetrail]

FWIW, Electronics International shipped my CGR-30P upgrade within about 3 weeks of ordering.

[TheAv8r]

10 hours ago, Wildhorsetrail said:

FWIW, Electronics International shipped my CGR-30P upgrade within about 3 weeks of ordering.

Nice!! 

I don't post this to bash JPI, although I'm unhappy I was told 4-6 weeks and it's going to be 11, I know some of it is out of their control, but just posting so others might have a better time reference. I wonder if a megathread tracking PIREPs of turnaround time in the industry would be a helpful resource for everyone...

[kortopates]

5 hours ago, Alex M said:

I wonder if a megathread tracking PIREPs of turnaround time in the industry would be a helpful resource for everyone...

its industry wide right now and to be expected and beyond the predictability of vendors, mechanics and installers. More patience is needed...  

[KSMooniac]

Along with the recommendation for patience, I think it is prudent in these times to not put your plane into a shop unless every bit of hardware is in-hand and ready to go.  It is frustrating to schedule a slot (which is pretty much required) and then find something delayed after your plane is in pieces.  

[TheAv8r]

2 hours ago, kortopates said:

its industry wide right now and to be expected and beyond the predictability of vendors, mechanics and installers. More patience is needed... 

You're missing my point. I'm saying, if manufacturers are saying 4-6 weeks, but people are seeing units coming in around 11 weeks - that's a helpful PIREP for others who might be planning to buy the same unit that they should expect 11 weeks.

If Garmin is saying 4 months for a new GTN650XI, but 3 people got them in 6 months, it's a helpful PIREP to know you should plan for 6 months.

So it might be a useful resource to track what people are actually experiencing, just to provide a crowdsourced baseline for others who are thinking about purchasing something so they have a more reasonable idea of what to expect.

[carusoam]

The pirep is well appreciated…

The situation probably changes weekly…

Chevy is still selling cars with a promise to install the computer chips for various items…

All variations of the supply chain challenges….

+1 for ordering  the known parts that are needed before your day in the shop arrives… 

Best regards,

-a-

[kortopates]

You're missing my point. I'm saying, if manufacturers are saying 4-6 weeks, but people are seeing units coming in around 11 weeks - that's a helpful PIREP for others who might be planning to buy the same unit that they should expect 11 weeks.
If Garmin is saying 4 months for a new GTN650XI, but 3 people got them in 6 months, it's a helpful PIREP to know you should plan for 6 months.
So it might be a useful resource to track what people are actually experiencing, just to provide a crowdsourced baseline for others who are thinking about purchasing something so they have a more reasonable idea of what to expect.

Part of the unpredictability comes from how dynamic the situation has been. Using your Garmin example, every couple of weeks their estimated leads times keep changing, mostly with significantly longer lead times. Past experience just isn’t a reliable indicator of future performance when things are changing weekly.


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[StevenL757]

On 7/18/2022 at 4:39 PM, Alex M said:

I have an avionics project that was planned to start June 27th, all parts were ordered mid-May based on the timeline shared by both JPI & CIES of 4-6 weeks. We're now at the 3rd week of July, the CIES Senders just shipped today and the JPI 930 is estimating 2 more weeks until it ships which puts my panel work starting at the end of the first week of August, 6 weeks delayed from starting. This would put the JPI at 11 weeks since order was placed, and the CIES senders at 9 weeks, so just sharing a PIREP for anyone considering an Oshkosh rebate upgrade to plan 8-11 weeks of lead time .

I've interacted with both vendors over the last several months.  My timelines/experiences for each are here...

• CIES - Roughly 4 to 6 weeks estimate...much like yours.  Mine slipped about a week due to an "internal issue" that was resolved, and then my set shipped on time and rather quickly...they bumped me up to priority shipping for the oversight.  Quite nice of them, and I appreciated the gesture.  Excellent company and staff there.
• JPI - My EDM930 was estimated at 8 weeks' lead time.  After about 5 weeks, I queried, and was told it would be about 9 weeks, but within a week, the date was back to 8 weeks.  Third iteration found that it actually shipped earlier than anticipated, and arrived after about 7 weeks...so all total, they came in ahead-of-schedule.  Also positive interactions with JPI across the board.

So, your estimates are pretty close, and after working with a few folks at each location over weeks and weeks, it appears each is doing everything they can to deliver to plan and schedule.  I'm not an advocate for anyone or any company - just reporting objectively what I've observed over time.

Steve