Hank Posted March 6, 2017 Report Posted March 6, 2017 6 hours ago, Hyett6420 said: In my car I have one of those "emergency flat" pumps with some sort of magic glue that comes in a seperste bottle that you screw onto the machine and turn the thing on. . It comes with the car. I'll have a chat with Aeroskill today as to whether it would be any good for pumping the tyre back up and sealing the leak temporarily to get you off the runway and home. Only takes the same time to inflate as getting a trolley from the FBO. (Well over here anyway). Andrew Only takes as long as getting a trolley from the FBO, when the FBO is open, or when traveling, IF there IS an FBO AND it's open . . . Because, well, Mooneys are for going away in, and stuff happens. . .
jetdriven Posted March 6, 2017 Report Posted March 6, 2017 The real problem is when one of the main tires goes flat on a J model. The gear door sits right on the ground and unless you have a 3/8" socket and a pair of cutters for the safety wire, you destroy the 2000$ gear door with the trolley thing.
Yetti Posted March 6, 2017 Report Posted March 6, 2017 For the How much weight on the tail. At the tie down ring which is a bit forward of the horz stab. two sacks of 80lbs saccrete will hold down the tail... just barely. I like overkill so I use 4 sacks when jacking. 160lbs of down force on the horzi stab would not bend anything, if it does, I would rethinking taking off.
RobertGary1 Posted March 6, 2017 Report Posted March 6, 2017 (edited) Never in my Mooney but once in the 210. Honestly I didn't know until post flight. -Robert Edited March 6, 2017 by RobertGary1
RobertGary1 Posted March 6, 2017 Report Posted March 6, 2017 1 hour ago, jetdriven said: The real problem is when one of the main tires goes flat on a J model. The gear door sits right on the ground and unless you have a 3/8" socket and a pair of cutters for the safety wire, you destroy the 2000$ gear door with the trolley thing. Always freaks me out when I see people put the chalks under the gear door. I always carefully place them to not be under the gear door. A flat tire will destroy the door if the door rests on the chalk. -Robert
jetdriven Posted March 6, 2017 Report Posted March 6, 2017 I dobt think I'm getting strange about my airplane, but it was just painted, after all. The fuel guy comes to my hangar and in the span of two minutes, clamps the fuel grounding clamp to the nose gear, scratching the paint, sets the fuel cal uspside down on the wing, drags the hose across the leading edge,and then bangs the fuel nozzle end on the wing (no fuel mat), chipping the paint there too. I should have just ran the guy off right there and sent them a bill.
Wildhorsesracing Posted March 6, 2017 Author Report Posted March 6, 2017 10 hours ago, 201er said: Just curious, how high was your prop from the ground (when vertical)? We didn't measure but it still had plenty of clearance. 10 hours ago, gsxrpilot said: Push down on the horizontal stab. One guy on each side, right at the root/leading edge, easily lifted the nose wheel off the ground. We actually held it up this way while the wheel was changed out. The local A&P swapped a loaner wheel on the the axel, and then took my wheel away to replace tube/tire. Then brought it back and we lifted the nose again to reinstall. The whole thing took about 30 minutes from stopping on the runway, pulling it off the runway, repairing the tire, and ready to take off. We tried to load it on the trolley with two of us pushing on the tail but couldn't push hard enough without denting something. In the end the trolley had a winch that we used to pull it up onto the trolley. 10 hours ago, takair said: The shimmy is quite violent in the pedals. It will get your attention that is for sure, but it still was manageable. I taxied for at least 1000 ft while it was shimmying trying to slow down and determine what the issue was, and eventually to get to a place where I wasn't blocking the only taxiway for the runway.
carusoam Posted March 6, 2017 Report Posted March 6, 2017 Prop clearance will be lowered with a flat nose tire. Another design criteria is to avoid prop damage because of a flat tire. The prop probably won't touch the ground with the bare wheel in place. Pavement quality suddenly becomes really important... I am a bit surprised that the gear door will sit on the ground though... Then again, I was surprised when I found out that LB tail strikes occur if not paying extra attention to the attitude during slower landings... All are gear length issues, that can be designed longer or shorter pretty easily when doing a clean sheet design... not so easy after decades of not changing airframe design very much because of low volume production issues... PP thoughts only, not a mechanic... Fun tidbits you learn about your Mooney at MS. Thanks to Jim for sharing his experience! Best regards, -a-
201er Posted March 6, 2017 Report Posted March 6, 2017 57 minutes ago, jetdriven said: I dobt think I'm getting strange about my airplane, but it was just painted, after all. The fuel guy comes to my hangar and in the span of two minutes, clamps the fuel grounding clamp to the nose gear, scratching the paint, sets the fuel cal uspside down on the wing, drags the hose across the leading edge,and then bangs the fuel nozzle end on the wing (no fuel mat), chipping the paint there too. I should have just ran the guy off right there and sent them a bill. This is why I prefer self serve. Has nothing to do with being cheap... no really! 1
RobertGary1 Posted March 6, 2017 Report Posted March 6, 2017 1 hour ago, 201er said: This is why I prefer self serve. Has nothing to do with being cheap... no really! And the way they ham-fisted clamp the caps down. But when traveling its much nicer on the wife if I call in a fuel order on the road vs load the family up, fire up the plane, taxi a few hundred yards, shut down, all jump out, fuel, repeat. -Robert
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