Guitarmaster Posted February 16, 2017 Report Posted February 16, 2017 Is it possible to level longitudinally the airplane by deflating the nose wheel? Or will it not move enough? I flew the tank empty today and am going the recalibrate the fuel gages tomorrow. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk Quote
KSMooniac Posted February 16, 2017 Report Posted February 16, 2017 No, you'll still need to jack up the wings.Sent from my VS985 4G using Tapatalk Quote
Guitarmaster Posted February 16, 2017 Author Report Posted February 16, 2017 No, you'll still need to jack up the wings.Sent from my VS985 4G using Tapatalk OK. Thanks. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk Quote
DonMuncy Posted February 16, 2017 Report Posted February 16, 2017 I would think you wouldn't necessarily want it level. Wouldn't you want it in the usual configuration it is in when you test prior to flight. 1 Quote
jetdriven Posted February 16, 2017 Report Posted February 16, 2017 (edited) Maybe if you took the nosewheel off and set the axle on the ground Edited February 16, 2017 by jetdriven Quote
mooniac15u Posted February 16, 2017 Report Posted February 16, 2017 9 hours ago, DonMuncy said: I would think you wouldn't necessarily want it level. Wouldn't you want it in the usual configuration it is in when you test prior to flight. I think he wants the fuel gauges to be accurate in level flight. 1 Quote
Piloto Posted February 16, 2017 Report Posted February 16, 2017 I think the normal tire pressure on the ground is the most reasonable. After all you want to know the fuel amount exactly before going on that long trip. Keep in mind that during climb and descent the plane is not at level angle. José Quote
mooniac15u Posted February 16, 2017 Report Posted February 16, 2017 The M20J maintenance manual contains this note: "AIRCRAFT MUST BE LEVEL TO CALIBRATE FUEL GAUGES" I'm guessing the M20F manual contains similar guidance. Quote
Guitarmaster Posted February 16, 2017 Author Report Posted February 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, mooniac15u said: The M20J maintenance manual contains this note: "AIRCRAFT MUST BE LEVEL TO CALIBRATE FUEL GAUGES" I'm guessing the M20F manual contains similar guidance. Yes, the JPI manual says the same thing. Regardless, I want them to be 'accurate' in flight. Jose, you are right, the fuel level changes with attitude, but a vast majority of the time is spent in level cruise. In addition, it gets rid of the "Fuel Mismatch" message on the EDM. That message comes from the difference between fuel onboard calculation and indicated fuel in the tanks. Quote
Bob - S50 Posted February 16, 2017 Report Posted February 16, 2017 Aerospace logic is the same. They are to be accurate in flight so the plane is supposed to be in the level flight attitude during calibration. However, I also want it accurate on the ground so I'll make a conversion chart. After calibration is done, put the plane back on the ground with one tank full and the other empty. Move fuel one gallon at a time from the full tank to the empty tank and note the readings on the gauge. Once both tanks have half a tank, you should have a conversion chart that allows you to know how much fuel you really have based on a reading on the ground. 2 Quote
Guitarmaster Posted February 16, 2017 Author Report Posted February 16, 2017 (edited) All done on the left tank. Used jacks and leveled. It takes about 6" of lift on the jacks to level the plane. I set the JPI for 0, 8, 16, 24, 32 gallons. Interestingly, at 32 gallons the fuel is a solid 2.5 to 3" from the filler neck. When the plane was back on the ground, that number was closer to an inch. I could have maybe squeezed two more gallons in. Here are some pics of the calibration.https://goo.gl/photos/ndQnoAtr8sZ839H3A The 'white out' pics of the tank are with it leveled. It was fun flying it empty. Now I know how much time it takes to start running again. It's longer than you think. It was a solid 8-10 seconds before it was running again. Would not be fun down low. @Bob - S50: Funny you mentioned a conversion chart. That is exactly what I am planning! Edited February 16, 2017 by Guitarmaster 1 Quote
cnoe Posted February 17, 2017 Report Posted February 17, 2017 Interestingly, at 32 gallons the fuel is a solid 2.5 to 3" from the filler neck. When the plane was back on the ground, that number was closer to an inch. Very interesting info. Thanks for noting it. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 1 Quote
DonMuncy Posted February 17, 2017 Report Posted February 17, 2017 Oops, sorry about that. I was only considering the thought that you were making calibrated dip sticks. Just to nit pick. At what speed does Mooney say the plane is "level" in level flight. I know at slow speeds, a plane flies really tail low. I presume that the difference between level is pretty small at reasonable flying speeds, but there must be some differences. Quote
carusoam Posted February 17, 2017 Report Posted February 17, 2017 Daver demonstrates some accuracy here! The levelness of the plane is measured by the horizontal seam or the top edge of the radio rack access panel... since I'm not there, relied on the rivets for the horizontal seam... lined the photographed seam up along the bottom of my iPad screen... to find that his plane is level and his photographic skills are equally level! The long body is known to be about 4° pointed skywards with all three feet on the ground... Best regards, -a- 1 Quote
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