Bob_Belville Posted November 16, 2016 Report Posted November 16, 2016 3 minutes ago, Brandontwalker said: Thanks for the chart. That solves the question regarding which long version to use. Now, any opinions regarding the benefit of the longer filter? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk The obvious observation is that longer equals more filter surface and less back pressure.
Brandontwalker Posted November 16, 2016 Report Posted November 16, 2016 The obvious observation is that longer equals more filter surface and less back pressure. Less back pressure = lower oil temps?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Bob_Belville Posted November 16, 2016 Report Posted November 16, 2016 39 minutes ago, Brandontwalker said: Less back pressure = lower oil temps? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk That speculation is over my pay grade.
Guest Posted November 16, 2016 Report Posted November 16, 2016 2 hours ago, Brandontwalker said: Clarence, What is the benefit of the long filter? I just checked and the last filter I installed was the AA48103. Do you know what long filter would replace it? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk The long version of a 48103 is a 48104. 48108/48109, 48110/48111. The long version of the filter has more filter area for a few dollars more. While a tighter fit, they do in most cases fit with the right tools at hand. Clarence
Guest Posted November 16, 2016 Report Posted November 16, 2016 With regards the the magnet, it is a gimmick in my opinion. The oil is flowing through the filter at quite a rate, how would the magnet capture anything meaningful from the oil flow with the magnet at the top in big bore Continental engines and horizontal in Lycoming engines? The exception is the 48108 filter installed in a K model where the filter is installed with the magnet at the bottom. Clarence
M016576 Posted November 16, 2016 Report Posted November 16, 2016 (edited) 1 minute ago, M20Doc said: With regards the the magnet, it is a gimmick in my opinion. The oil is flowing through the filter at quite a rate, how would the magnet capture anything meaningful from the oil flow with the magnet at the top in big bore Continental engines and horizontal in Lycoming engines? The exception is the 48108 filter installed in a K model where the filter is installed with the magnet at the bottom. Clarence At risk of thread drift- Has anyone with a tempest filter on this board found a meaningful amount of metal (subjective, I know) on the tempest magnet, vice in the folds? i think the concept is based on the "chip light" found in turboprop gearboxes... but the difference is the light illuminates when metal shavings are detected that will/could lead to imminent failure... the tempest magnet is just collecting the metal that would otherwise be caught in the pleats, on the magnet instead- so I don't tend to value it. But I do value the fact that the filter is cheaper than a champion filter. Edited November 16, 2016 by M016576
Guest Posted November 16, 2016 Report Posted November 16, 2016 Every few months I have a 55 gallon drum of opened filter cans in my shop. Anyone who wants to inspect them is welcome. Clarence
Guest Posted November 16, 2016 Report Posted November 16, 2016 Just now, bluehighwayflyer said: Speaking of magnets, what do you think about the efficacy of this magnetic oil drain plug, Clarence? In an experimental application, of course. Jim http://antisplataero.com/products/magnetic-super-plug Jim, Interesting idea, I've never seen one in a recip engine before. Clarence
DaV8or Posted November 16, 2016 Report Posted November 16, 2016 I missed it completely. I guess I never read the advertising. I use Tempest filters and I cut and inspect them myself. Where is this magnet?? I'm assuming down by the "bolt head" where you put your wrench?
M016576 Posted November 16, 2016 Report Posted November 16, 2016 15 minutes ago, Hyett6420 said: Ok you started the flame war. there was a guy at the Mooney summit who talked about Oil. NOW being a techy he was not the best "producer/orator" however the subject was fascinating and showed which oils broke down their anticorrosive particles quickest. Ill see if i can dig up the slide. He did say that Shell 100W + was good. He explaned about Mobile 1 and why it failed. It was quite interesting. Wasn't the mobile 1 a fully synthetic, which meant it couldn't scavenge lead and combustion by products as efficiently as a semi synthetic or mineral oil? I should have been more clear- minus additives, the pma'd, like type oils are all pretty much the same thing underneath within their categories (AD vs mineral- except weight, obviously). What you pay for, and what is hotly debated, is the additive package (and the label): and some of the claims on which is "the best" are a bit subjective. I won't risk stepping any further down this hole- but that's the best I gathered from the knowledge bombs in the camguard/oil threads I've read here.... 1
Yetti Posted November 16, 2016 Report Posted November 16, 2016 The magnet is on one of the filter media steel caps, Flat black ring. Have not seen any metal on mine in 3 changes.
LANCECASPER Posted November 16, 2016 Report Posted November 16, 2016 10 hours ago, bluehighwayflyer said: Speaking of magnets, what do you think about the efficacy of this magnetic oil drain plug, Clarence? In an experimental application, of course. Jim http://antisplataero.com/products/magnetic-super-plug He promised at the beginning of the video he was not going to talk so much in this video like he had in the last. I can only imagine how much he talked in the previous video . .lol Neat product idea though.
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