adding Right Seat Brakes

[CaptGMoore]

I am currently in consideration of purchasing a M20C, or M20F and will be looking to use the airplane for my CFI training and FAA Checkride.   I am interested to know if any of you know the cost, and process to add brakes to the right seat of these M20C or M20F models.   Are there any maintenance shops that might have familiarity or experience with this STC modification?  I would appreciate any information on whether or not this modification is possible and at what other considerations would I need to know.   Thanks for the help

[cliffy]

When they were first built Mooney had a kit to add RT brakes. They may still have it available. All it takes is the kit and the drawing number

No STC needed it from the factory.  Mine was done by kit a drawing number many years ago.

[N601RX]

I added them to my F model 4 years ago.  There is no STC to do this.  It is a Mooney supplied upgrade kit that is already part of the type cert and just.requires a log book entry.  I was able to find used parts for around $400. At the time a new kit was unavailable, but the cost was around $3K when available.  They are a little time consuming to install, bending and routing all the lines.  If you want to see the drawings and what is involved I have an electronic copy I can email to you.

[RobertGary1]

I took a couple of my CFI check rides including my initial in my F without right side brakes. 

 

-Robert

[N201MKTurbo]

I was going to add them to my M20F. I have all the parts except the tubing if someone is interested. None of it is new, but nothing some paint and new orings wont fix. I have the rudder pedals with the brakes and brake cylinders.

[StinkBug]

I'd be very interested in those parts. Shoot me a PM with what you'd like for them.

[N601RX]

Be sure your C came from the factory with the mounting brackets for the master cylinders.  Here are the serial numbers the kit will work with.

 

[StinkBug]

I'm guessing 680049 would be later?

[N601RX]

The early serial numbers began with the year they were manufactured in,  In the early 70's they abandoned this scheme and started using numbers in the 20's. 

 

http://www.mooneyevents.com/chrono.htm

[StinkBug]

Well that's a bummer for me then. Thanks for the info.

[N601RX]

You can check and make sure, but I believe if you remove the exhaust tunnel on the copilot side that you will find that you do not have the mounting bracket present to hold the rear of the master cylinder.

[cliffy]

My 64 D had them added later. I think the brackets just weld onto the tube frame. Might be done with a Minor Alteration. TIG welding would be ideal for that job..

[takair]

I too did CFI and CFII and both check rides without RH brakes.  That was with a number of instructors...all willing.  The key was briefing the fact ahead of time.  It is also one of the first things you "teach" when you get in the plane.  For short field you can request brakes and for taxi you do a positive handoff with appropriate responses.  In most cases, anybody transitioning to the Mooney knows how to use the brakes. Mir it were primary instruction, I would want RH brakes.  Just my 2 cents.