wishboneash Posted October 14, 2015 Report Posted October 14, 2015 How much torque is produced by our typical engines? I am most interested in the 310hp version of the IO550, of course. Is that value documented somewhere? Best regards, -a- At 75% power and 2500 rpm it would work out to about 480 ft-lbs of torque 1 Quote
Urs_Wildermuth Posted October 14, 2015 Report Posted October 14, 2015 Kommers, from what you write I wonder if the question you should be asking yourself is the right one. You say that you and your wife are traumatized from this event, which was a gear collapse. This of course can happen on ANY retracable airplane, any time. So whatever the history of a plane you are going to buy, you will have to live with the fact that the only exception to the moniker "what goes up must go down" in aviation is most likely the retracable gear of an aeroplane. Which, in my mind, puts the question forward if you want to continue with one at all. There are fixed gear airplanes around which will match a M20J (SR20 for instance) in most terms and you will not have to worry about this, unless of course the gear breakes off... which is a different story altogether. Or, you have to ask yourself if the trauma you suffered is deep enough that it will mean you have to reconsider the continuation of your flying as a whole. Possibly you might consider getting help with this issue as well. I know this sounds pretty harsh, but I am afraid that it might help you and your wife work this accident through and get a proper perspective on it. A gear collapse/failure is something which can happen, not nice, not a happy event, but you both walked away from it in one piece and the airplane would be flyable again with a bit of cost and repair, and be as safe as before. That is not a showstopping accident in my view, but rather a troublesome incident which you should be able to put behind yourself. If you can't, then I do wonder whether another rectracable gear airplane is the right choice for you. Just my 2 cents worth. 2 Quote
aviatoreb Posted October 14, 2015 Report Posted October 14, 2015 There is a sad looking 172 at my airport tie downs for two months now while the owner decides what to do with it. It suffered a gear collapse while on tie down during a wind storm. 80mph winds hit it just the wrong way, then the gear collapsed, and then without the tension it tipped side ways and bent the wing way out of place. And the whole time it was on tie down and never left tie down. At night unoccupied of course. Quote
kommers Posted October 18, 2015 Author Report Posted October 18, 2015 (edited) Kommers, from what you write I wonder if the question you should be asking yourself is the right one. You say that you and your wife are traumatized from this event, which was a gear collapse. This of course can happen on ANY retracable airplane, any time. So whatever the history of a plane you are going to buy, you will have to live with the fact that the only exception to the moniker "what goes up must go down" in aviation is most likely the retracable gear of an aeroplane. Which, in my mind, puts the question forward if you want to continue with one at all. There are fixed gear airplanes around which will match a M20J (SR20 for instance) in most terms and you will not have to worry about this, unless of course the gear breakes off... which is a different story altogether. Or, you have to ask yourself if the trauma you suffered is deep enough that it will mean you have to reconsider the continuation of your flying as a whole. Possibly you might consider getting help with this issue as well. I know this sounds pretty harsh, but I am afraid that it might help you and your wife work this accident through and get a proper perspective on it. A gear collapse/failure is something which can happen, not nice, not a happy event, but you both walked away from it in one piece and the airplane would be flyable again with a bit of cost and repair, and be as safe as before. That is not a showstopping accident in my view, but rather a troublesome incident which you should be able to put behind yourself. If you can't, then I do wonder whether another rectracable gear airplane is the right choice for you. Just my 2 cents worth. Well, I wasn't in the airplane when this happened so my wife is more traumatized than I am. Yet she already overcame her fears and irt was she who said that we must resume flying, not me. Long story short, yesterday I landed Mooney 20J in our home airport and put her in the hangar. The new chapter of aviation in my family has begun... Edited October 19, 2015 by kommers 4 Quote
Hank Posted October 18, 2015 Report Posted October 18, 2015 Congrats on the new ride, kommers! Hope everything goes well for you both. Quote
Mooneymite Posted October 18, 2015 Report Posted October 18, 2015 I have a buddy who just dialed out his crank after a prop-strike and put on a new prop. Shortly thereafter he set out for Alaska. On his first fuel stop, the brand new prop departed the aircraft when he pulled the power back on landing. Talk about lucky! If you're going to lose a prop, this was about as benign as it gets. Prop strikes are potentially lethal. Quote
Guest Posted October 18, 2015 Report Posted October 18, 2015 Did the prop fall off the crankshaft or did the crankshaft breaks off with the prop? Clarence Quote
aviatoreb Posted October 18, 2015 Report Posted October 18, 2015 I have a buddy who just dialed out his crank after a prop-strike and put on a new prop. Shortly thereafter he set out for Alaska. On his first fuel stop, the brand new prop departed the aircraft when he pulled the power back on landing. Talk about lucky! If you're going to lose a prop, this was about as benign as it gets. Prop strikes are potentially lethal. Wow. Im imagining him running over the prop on roll out once it fell off the airplane but he is still rolling at 60mph. Quote
Mooneymite Posted October 18, 2015 Report Posted October 18, 2015 Im imagining him running over the prop on roll out once it fell off the airplane but he is still rolling at 60mph. Oh, not to worry! That prop still had enough energy that it took them about 25 minutes to find it somewhere off to the side of the runway. Quote
aviatoreb Posted October 18, 2015 Report Posted October 18, 2015 Oh, not to worry! That prop still had enough energy that it took them about 25 minutes to find it somewhere off to the side of the runway. Incredible. Quote
Mooneymite Posted October 19, 2015 Report Posted October 19, 2015 Did the prop fall off the crankshaft or did the crankshaft breaks off with the prop? Clarence Crankshaft fractured near prop hub. Very much like the picture posted here. Quote
jetdriven Posted October 19, 2015 Report Posted October 19, 2015 True, but you'd have to pretty complacent to hit the starter with a tractor in front of you... it happened to someone I know. Quote
Urs_Wildermuth Posted October 21, 2015 Report Posted October 21, 2015 (edited) Great news Kommers!! Edited October 21, 2015 by Urs_Wildermuth Quote
bradp Posted October 25, 2015 Report Posted October 25, 2015 (edited) Great news krommers! Glad to hear you're back. Btw who did you end up going through for insurance? I was about to +1 for Falcon and then I read to the end of the thread. Edited October 25, 2015 by bradp Quote
Yooper Rocketman Posted October 25, 2015 Report Posted October 25, 2015 How about some pictures of the new ride? Quote
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