Flying To A Millitary Air Base.

[HopePilot]

I'm looking to visit Edward Airforce Base's museum, but I don't want to do the long drive through the desert.  I seem to recall there might be some forms that allow a civilian to fly into an Air Force base.  Anyone know if there is a way to get such permission?

 

[GeorgePerry]

Yes...You'll need to fill out a civilian landing permit and fax or email to base Ops.  The form Numbers are DD2401, DD2402 and DD2400.  I recommend finding the correct phone number and point of contact at base ops first to make sure this will be all they need.

The 2401 is the request.  The 2402 is the military version of a liability release and the 2400 is prof of insurance.

You can do a google search or use the USN link Here to get the forms

https://portal.navfac.navy.mil/portal/page/portal/extranet/afl/afl_startup_tab

[HopePilot]

Awesome, but does that one work for the Air Force or just the Navy?

[MooneyMitch]

Earlier this year, our SMX FASST team members were invited by Edwards AFB to fly in  and attend an open house which was to be for General Aviation pilots.  I will find out about this and let you know.

[jasonwojo]

Quote: 16LPilot

Awesome, but does that one work for the Air Force or just the Navy?

[HopePilot]

The insurance section is the only part that seems tricky.  Still...I think I really would like to give it a try.

[HopePilot]

It took 2 hours to get out of the parking lot at the Edwards Air Show this year (and 2 hours to drive to the lot).  It would be worth filling out all the forms if they would approve a fly in for that event.

[Buster1]

Been in the Air Force for 15+ years, a pilot for most of those years.  It is possible, but up to the folks at Base Ops.  They are usually helpful and will probably guide you thru the process and forms over the phone if you are courteous and have the basic forms somewhat ready.  Shouldn't be too tough, but they may also totally deny you "just because."

I have 3 pilot friends who are test pilots at Edwards right now.  Do you want me to call them to get a good name / number to BOPS?

[HopePilot]

I would hate to put anyone out, but...sure!  How does anyone pass on an offer like that?

[mjc]

How likely would Edwards be to approve such a request? I made such a request of Base Ops at Beale AFB for an altitude chamber ride and was told there was no chance.

I have flown into government airports twice. Once for a safety seminar at Travis AFB and once to fly Young Eagles at Moffett airfield. For the Travis event, I just had to call and get a PPR. The Moffett event required the forms mentioned above and an insurance certificate.

[jasonwojo]

Quote: 16LPilot

It took 2 hours to get out of the parking lot at the Edwards Air Show this year (and 2 hours to drive to the lot).  It would be worth filling out all the forms if they would approve a fly in for that event.

[jasonwojo]

Quote: 16LPilot

I would hate to put anyone out, but...sure!  How does anyone pass on an offer like that?

[HopePilot]

I'll call next week!

[Buster1]

Looks like Wojo beat me to it.

[MooneyMitch]

Bill Kokorikos is the name of the Edwards rep. that presented at our FASST event.   I am still waiting on some contact information for him, and will let you know.

[HopePilot]

Well...I struck out.  Called Edwards, but they don't give clearance for just a museum or tour.  You have to be invited for a specific safety event or an outside contractor.  Thanks anyway guys.

[MooneyMitch]

Quote: Mitch

Bill Kokorikos is the name of the Edwards rep. that presented at our FASST event.   I am still waiting on some contact information for him, and will let you know.

[Immelman]

It never hurts to ask/try! That's my philosophy.

[MooneyMitch]

Quote: 16LPilot

I'm looking to visit Edward Airforce Base's museum, but I don't want to do the long drive through the desert.  I seem to recall there might be some forms that allow a civilian to fly into an Air Force base.  Anyone know if there is a way to get such permission?

 

[MooneyMitch]

Just received the below information from our local FASST team leader.  Here is the actual link; http://www.faasafety.gov/SPANS/event_details.aspx?eid=33617

"NOTE: Heads Up Notice--Edwards AFB Rosamond DRY LAKEBED 'Civilian Fly-In' NOTE: Time & Date"
Topic: Civilian Fly-In and Edwards AFB Flight Safety Event
On October 01, 2010 at 7:00 AM
Location:
Edwards AFB, Rosamond Dry Lakebed
305 E. Popson Ave.

Edwards, CA 93524

Description:
Edwards AFB is in the "planning stages" of the FIRST ever "CIVILIAN Fly-In to one of our historic dry lakebeds. "This is also a "Flight Safety Event" Only 100 aircraft will be selected to land at the event and will be picked using a lottery system. Those not selected to fly-in will be able to drive to the lakebed. Details are pending final approval, this is only a "heads up" notice.

To view further details and registration information for this seminar, click here.

Thank you for using http://FAASafety.gov.

[mooneyflyer]

Registration is now OPEN.  Sign up for this once in a lifetime event.

October 1, 2010 at Edwards AFB and land on the dry lake bed!!! How cool!

www.flighttestnation.com

[DaV8or]

If the dry lake bed down there is anything like the Black Rock desert, you'll be cleaning the fine dust out of everything for years!

[HopePilot]

Well, unfortunately I won't be going.  I have to work, but also I wouldn't really want to land on the dry lake bed.  It's a combo of not wanting to get dust in every nook and cranny, but also because, being from the general area, it doesn't really seem like landing at Edwards.  I guess it's technically on property, but it's really closer to Rosamond (which has better food).  I've been to Edwards itself, so I'm really looking for the experience of landing on the runway. 

[DaV8or]

Quote: HopePilot

Well, unfortunately I won't be going.  I have to work, but also I wouldn't really want to land on the dry lake bed.  It's a combo of not wanting to get dust in every nook and cranny, but also because, being from the general area, it doesn't really seem like landing at Edwards.  I guess it's technically on property, but it's really closer to Rosamond (which has better food).  I've been to Edwards itself, so I'm really looking for the experience of landing on the runway. 

[Theo]

Quote: DaV8or

They invite the common rabble, but we, the owners, are only welcome at the back door and we have to park in the dirt.