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I used WD40 for cleaning up and around the belly panel interiors and inspection panels. Seemed to be gentle enough without long lasting effects. Light dirt has a tendency to stick with some oil residue on everything. Maguire's Soap and water works pretty well also. Probably can't paint over either of these though..... -a-

You mentioned in one of the threads that you simply connected a few wires between the two devices and told each device what to expect from the other devices. Is it possible... It seems that when these devices were new, there was intention of the original manufacturers to connect the full automation of the 530W, gpss and the A/P. Unfortunately, the complete system was not ready at the time of the construction of your hull. Over time, the hardware and/or operating systems were updated and the final capability has been put in place. Sounds like the go around feature is a relic to the way the hardware was originally installed and not so much how it operates today?

JRob, Congratulations on your accomplishment. Did someone cut the tail off your shirt? Keep in mind, you may still be in the running to win "earliest to Mooney ownership" http://www.mooneyspace.com/index.cfm?mainaction=posts&forumid=1&threadid=1558 For many of us, it is just too late..... Best regards, -a-

Just for thought... [1] A gear pump provides the pressure for oil to fill the pistons that open the blade angle when commanded by the prop speed govenor. [2] The govenor gives this command based on position of the prop speed (blue) knob. [3] There is a particular time when a large amount of pressure is required to make a significant adjustment to blade angle. This occurs during the run-up exercise. Testing the prop speed govenor at high rpm on the ground can put a fair amount of pressure on these seals. Some people during the run-up make three large adjustments to this knob looking for rpm change, oil pressure drop, manifold pressure change. This exercise also exchanges oil in the prop system with warm oil from the oil pan. Recommendation: Clean your prop. Go do a run-up, test the govenor as indicated in the POH, Taxi back and take a look. If it is leaking oil at the seals, it will stain the back of the prop. Other people, lightly make the test of the govenor. They seem to know something about seal preservation. My experience: The failed govenor/system in my M20C failed in the high RPM mode. Most Mooneys, on failure go to high rpm. (Mooney Missiles go the other way). Testing the govenor is good, if it fails, it will still allow safe take-off and landing. "Over testing" the govenor / system may lead to seal leakage (This statement is up for debate and may not be factual). Keep in mind, the oil that leaves the system is precious. This is the oil that lubricates the engine. If there is a significant leak, it could potentially drain the life-blood from your engine and put it all over your windshield. Other issues for debate have been how to store the prop, either vertical or horizontal. Seals have been suspected of drying out if you leave one vertical. I am not so much a believer in this theory. With a three bladed prop, one is going to be more vertical than the others.....When you store the prop horizontally, someone will walk into it during the pre-flight. Just for thoughts, -a-

All great points. Things like this do get done at least one way that I know of. "Pork Barrel Spending" -a-

I like the rounded window look. It is typical modern automotive. While looking for an M20J, I specifically was looking for models with rounded windows or newer. I would not have changed my rectangular windows. It is not so much about the windows as much as all of the other features and updates that came at the same time. On the other hand, When you are in the business of being an aircraft mechanic, update and upgrade until it is a modern missile. Rounded windows on the outside do not need to be matched with rounded plastic on the inside on the same day. For the most part, the old plastic on the interior of the rectangular windows does not match their windows all that well after many years either. My thoughts...., -a-

I am partial to the brands that I have had good success with. Call it brand loyalty. I would stay with JPI. What I am looking for in an engine / system analyzer [1] High resolution. Lots of data on one screen. [2] Failures / out of normal range, pointed out by alarms. [3] Fuel level, fuel flow, time/distance/fuel to airport. Everything / anything to keep me from running out of fuel. Since alarms will point out most urgent issues, being on the right side of the panel and not regularly scanned is not so important to me. However, I have no plan to upgrade in the near future.

Don't forget your Mooney Ambassador T-Shirts..... (see mooneygirl for details) Share the passion. If MAPA didn't have what you are looking for, you might speak with Lela and let her know what you are thinking. I am thinking, If Mapa doesn't have it, you will be making one-off's at a higher price for yourself. I checked Sportys.com. The only Mooney inventory I could find was a hat. It was not as nice as what MAPA has...... http://sportys.com/PilotShop/product/12608 You can get it gift wrapped for an additional $8.00. On further review, I found the 1970's tie that would go well with an M20C....... http://sportys.com/PilotShop/product/12265 -a-

I'd pay extra for the return of Meigs. For years I would visit McCormick Center for trade-shows (left side of the photo) and watch airplanes come and go. The airport closed before I was able to fly myself out there. I first simulated flight into Meigs in 1986, my first version of microsoft flight simulator for the PC. Monochrome screen and wire outlines of the runway and a few buildings. When I visited Chicago last year, the airport buildings were still there, but all of the paved surfaces have been turned into soggy grass fields. The island is desolate, there are two or three people at any one time using it (walking on trails or jogging). Meanwhile at the other end of the island, and nearby, are Soldier field (Bears), Shedd aquarium, Museum of Natural History and Millenium park. All of which are full up with people. Turning the airport into a park seemed like a good idea. It just didn't work as planned. Unbuild it, and no one will come. Maybe this could be one of the President's shovel ready projects!!! Just one opinion.... -a-

Mike, That bracket looks like you can seat the window up into it. Are there no screw holes for the window at the top? -a-

Nicholas, I look forward to your pictures. Consider using the photo galleries option at the top of the page. It is much easier than trying to load any other way..... Best regards, -a-

Roundout... O 219 was indicating a 530 Waas and KFC 225 on this other thread that seem to start at the same time.... http://www.mooneyspace.com/index.cfm?mainaction=posts&forumid=3&threadid=1585

"put an ad on T-A-P this week and received a full price offer the very first day. A successful pre-buy has been done and it goes away on Thursday." Green shoots have arrived in the aviation market.......? -a-

Some ideas to consider...... Wentworth http://www.wentworthaircraft.com/airframe_%20parts.html The last line on the list caught my attention for Luca... If the M20 has the common parts of an M20 A,B,C,D,E,F he may be in luck. How many M20s are there? Doors Windows Landing Gear Ailerons Flaps Elevators Rudders Stabilizers Complete wing and tail sections Seats, Seat Tracks, and Seat Belts. Recommend: Check inventory with Wentworth or other similar source, then check with Don Maxwell, Lasar or other similar source for advice on appropriateness of fit. Seats and Seat Track are critical devices that probably need to be the right part number for the right installation (according to FAA guidelines). I only have part numbers for the M20C. I am sure a parts book is available for the M20. Happy hunting. 100# GW gain would probably be huge for the smaller engined (150hp?) M20... -a-

O-0219, I'm with RBHarvey on this one.... I believe that is all about a missed approaches. "go around" seems somewhat mislabeled... I had read about these modern niceties during IFR training. It is probably easy to find in your manual for the GPS. Be aware how to use it so the automatic sequencing happens in the right place. You would not want to head for the hold before reaching the MAP or short cutting any of the missed approach procedure. My '94 M20R has no such luxury for its KLN 90B. -a-

LP aero plastics give several choices, from tapes, to silicone, to urethane....Including the B2 2 part Polysulfide (2hour work time). http://www.lpaero.com/accessories.html B2 info from LP site: This sealant meets Military Specifications - MIL-S-8802 Interchangeable sealants: Courtaulds Aerospace - Pro-Seal 890B, PR-1440B, PR-1487 D Aircraft Products - BR4005B Flamemaster Corp - CS3204B Advanced Chemistry and Technology - MC-236B Fiber Resin Corp - PS-1102B J & R Industries - WS-8020B My M20c replacements were done with silicone. No known issues. -a-

Baron, I had used USAIG. Needed 15 hrs of dual (with similar experience as you). Are you sure your guy said 50 and not 15? 15 seemed excessive at the time, the last five hours of dual were just not required. The mooney is magical in its abilities to fly far, fast and economically. They are not dangerous or that different from skills required to fly other planes. Also try Falcon or check out the previous thread.... http://www.mooneyspace.com/index.cfm?mainaction=posts&forumid=3&threadid=353 -a- -a-

First, Rodney King. Now, Martha and John King. Who's next Larry King? OK, Rodney may have not been completely innocent. -a-

120 hours. M20C, it was for sale at my home drome. I had sat in it when it was up for sale years earlier. I had first heard of Mooneys when an aviation magazine compared Mooneys and Corvettes (or ferraris or something).

"I got a the nod of approval from the other half.." [1] Damn the torpedos....Full speed ahead captain! [2] Hit while the iron is hot! [3] Of course you want her to feel this way, after you have made the purchase too...the other half will appreciate paved runways for awhile.....Along with clear skies and no bumps..... Grass can wait. At least until you answer the question from your own experience. -a-

"how may of you would be comfortable taking off in a nearly maxed weight airplane, on a warm to hot day, on a relively short runway into rising terrain with trees at the end of the runway, with only 7 hours in a complex airplane with 3 generations of a family on board?" I would. (in a Mooney) Could I state my position more clearly? I would be equally or more comfortable to sit in the back while Jolie does the flying. Her pre-flight planning is complete. I would only attempt this with all four cylinders though. I have had the three cylinder M20C experience during take-off. I would not like to do that again. I think flying is based on calculated risks. Near gross, hot day, short runway, wind speed and direction, these are all part of the T/O calculations. Where I was bothered is....how do you know when a cylinder is going to drop out just after rotation? Without compression, there is no ignition and the fourth cylinder becomes just a drag on the other three.... Now I own a 6 cylinder engine with the expectation that the sixth cylinder will be a drag on the other five.... Now spreading the risk out as wide as possible....... Diatribe complete. Let's all find a way to write a nice article, or be part of an article, that we each feel supports GA. Go get 'em -a-

"why does a shop need a lot of Mooney experience for an avionics retrofit" There is very little space behind the panel, and some of it is blocked by our favorite steel tubes. It is greatly helpful to understand the available volume during the layout phase. Many things fit on paper in 2D. The top of the panel does not go very deep. Extreme left and right are shallow spots also. Otherwise not much mooney experience required beyond the "does it fit" portion of the plan.... -a-

80 hrs in cessna for ppl training....Bought M20C more hrs in cessna for IFR training....Bought M20R If it meets your mission, have no fear in selecting a mooney as your steed. Good luck identifying your mission....especially what it will look like 10 years from now..... as for grass, I only taxi on grass. I am not that smooth a pilot to be confident landing on grass.....4 out of 5 landings are smooth. The one I put on grass will probably be #5, seems like it might be expensive. For good grass experience. Look up Bryan Painter and his photo gallery..... He probably has a "No Fear" decal on his M20C. -a-

I used it as recommended by the POH like any carbureted engine. Carb heat saved the day, once. High humidity trip over some swampy land heading VFR to Sun 'N Fun a few years ago. Power does diminish slowly, un-noticed, and carb heat is the only way to know that it was ice building up and not the engine going away. I like the idea of a carb temp indicator. I like the idea of fuel injection even better. -a-

Jeff, Nice job. The picture of Bosco leading the girls is definitely worth 1,000 words. -a-