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The experimental stats are much much worse. That said, remember some aircraft lines are especially worse, for example the Lancair IVP I think it was had 20 fatals with 400 in the fleet at some point when I was reading about it. Also some much less well known airplanes than the vans or lancair, with significant build deviations from plans as well, are included in the bulk statistics for experimental. So staying away from that model with especially difficult stall characteristics and staying with a line like vans really improves things. Also, the time which is most dangerous by far in an experimental is flying off those first stage a hours, especially flight number one, two, three, etc. Things are more likely to break. Not saying why, just recalling stats I have read. That is my thinking. Take away the flaky designs, take away the fringe, etc, etc, and what do you have? Probably an accident rate much closer to certified. No I don't have the exact comparable statistics of a four place, N/A 180 or above HP, low wing retractable gear experimental or certified. I would bet that they are not significantly different. As for the price of a RV's or other experimentals? Check out this RV-10 on Barnstormers. RV-10 WITH GTN750 AND AFS 5600 • $229,000 • FOR SALE • RV-10 8850E 2007 with Lycoming IO-540. Approximately 450 HOURS TT engine and airframe. Panel just completely rebuilt with new AFS 5600 on left, AFS 4500 on right, Garmin GTN750 touch screen GPS Nav/Com, PS Engineering PMA8000B audio panel, Garmin SL30 2nd radio, Garmin GTX 327 transponder, and TruTrak Digiflight II Autopilot with GPSS and autotrim. Now. What would this kind of performance cost on a 450 hour 2007 Ovation? Lets look at this 750 Hour 2007 Ovation. Price $314,000 2007 MOONEY M20R OVATION 3 GX 795 Hours Total Time Since New.Airframe: 795 Hours Total Time Since New. Engine Specs: 795 Hours Total Time Since New. (Continental Platinum IO-550-G, 310hp, 2000 TBO) Prop(s): 795 Hours Total Time Since New. 3-Blade Hartzell Top Prop, Blended Airfoil Blades. Avionics/Radios: Garmin G-1000 Full Glass Panel. Garmin GTX-33 Transponder with TIS (Traffic). Garmin GDL-69 Weather Datalink. STEC-55X Autopilot with Altitude Pre-Select. So. Is this comparable? Apples to Apples enough? Which is the better deal??????????? Good darn question as to which plane is a better value. Very subjective indeed. I wish I had enough money to give Jimmy for that Ovation but the difference in price of $85,000 would go a long way in Avgas, maintenance, and Annuals for the RV-10. Is the Ovation safer? Statistics say that it is. Would I kick the 10 out of bed? Heck no. David

OK. Got it. A little boasting here, but my chicken stripe was down the center of the tire, after a race weekend I sold my take offs to the street riders for a profit!!! Probably wouldn't fit on your Beemer though! I do know a few 1200 riders that are damn good on those machines. They were sleepers for sure. Take them for granted and they would be gone!!

"But I promised myself to stay away from experimental." This decision is based on the historically higher accident rate, I take it? Why is it safer to fly a M20a-tn, than an RV-10? I don't know. I don't see any corelation, or reason, other than a historical statistic. That is my assesment. I would fly a RV-10 in an instant, and would feel just as safe as I do in a Mooney. Would I be historically as safe, I guess not. Feelings are personal David

As a first time user for any aviation app, is Garmin Pilot intuitive enough for novices? Is there any features that Pilot is missing and should have, that Foreflight has? Does the Nexus 7 GPS have at least the same reliability/accuracy as the I-Pad? All things being equal, is the I-Pad that much better in the plane, or no? Dollar for dollar value. Are the two apps comparable with iniation price and added services? These are off the top of my head to start. Feel free to adlib.

(Still ride a Honda VFR, hard, with but small "chicken strips.") Great bike! What year though all the years are good!? Not sure what chicken strips are?

Wonder what it would take to buy, and then to make feasible, much less profitable?

Someone on this board has this combination I believe.Looking for a report. I was given the chance to buy a current Nexus 7 with all the pilot friendly goodies, cheap. I am/was about to give it to my boys but before I do, I want to compare the Garmin Pilot Droid app to WingX and Foreflight/ Ipad. Lots to read about concerning Foreflight and WingX, but not Garmin Pilot. I know that is partly indicative of I Pad popularity, and not necessarily lack of functionality of Garmin Pilot or Droid. Can not find, yet, a Consumer Aviation comparison of the two or three apps back to back. It is a pay sight so my search is limited. Any help please. David

Thank you all for the help I have recieved by PM and thanks all for the encouragement. David

...love playing both sides of the fence.... Lyndon B Johnson

har har har. That was funny right there. My wifes '02 Dodge with a 4.7Ltr engine has had a low end rod knock for over three years. I buy the "quiet the rod knock additive" at O'Rileys and and I am quite satified with the advertised performance. The bottom end hasn't blown out yet......Knock on Wood. "Honey, what is that sound? What sound? Oh that. Ingnore it"

It seems that everyone has an opinion...... They are entitled to it.

Cessna has provisioned the three models of piston singles to accept the Max-Viz system for the last couple of years, making for easy retrofits. Retrofit systems are available for $30,051. Installations are only available through Cessna dealers. When ordered on a new airplane, the upgrade is $22,145. The lead article online at AOPA is the night vision that is available on some of the Highwing models. $22 or $30 grand for night vision attached to the glass panel. WOW is all I can say. You can field overhaul your engine for less money. David

I doubt it also, but the intelligence is there, is my line of thinking.

Why do we have landing gear limitations with any of the K, M, S, or TN with the monster legs on the M22 available? Just saying.

Updated my profile. Thanks for pointing it out. David

I need a mentor please. One (of two) I can ask questions without the scrutiny of the whole board. I flew my first long for me cross county last week (4.2 Hobbs) and I learned that I have a lot to learn. David

Okay. Let's come up with a name for Parker's wet plane fantasy. Hmmmmm. Waterpark---er

It would seem to me like you would have trouble getting the air out of the caliper with the bleed screw in the bottom, unless you unbolted it and held it upside down. This is exactly what you do. More than once on different race bikes I turned upside down the calipers to allow trapped air to escape. Tapping lightly with a rubber mallet dislodged the bubbles and my at the time full hand brakes miraculously were transformed into single finger brakes. If you have the time and aptitude, I say do it because no AP is going to. DF

Heartbreak Ridge "What do you think of this exercise Gunny" " I think it is a Cluster Fk, Sir"

Okay, I will say it......... RV-10

Not sure if this Mooney pilot is on Mooneyspace, but good on him. http://www.dcourier.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&SubsectionID=1&ArticleID=114211 David

I am interested in this aswer also. Hope someone has a real Mooney world PIREP on this product. df

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(I initially suspected the same). Yeah. Me too!