NickG

Main difference is how lean and what RPM. I cruise at 2550, others 2500 or 2400.

WOT 14000 176KTAS 11.4GPH

I had a Bruces made for my Cherokee a few years ago - its was cheaper than Mac and of good quality. My Ovation came with a Mac canopy cover and empennage cover. I would say the quality is a little better but not enough to chose one over the other. My Macs cover has Velcro opening sections so I can get into the cockpit and/or baggage area without taking the cover off. I dont know if that is an option for Bruces or not.

My fuel flow, max power at sea level is 29 GPH

I use basically the same method on my 94 O with 310HP except I climb WOT, 2700 full rich as I climb lean to keep 1250 on EGT to altitude. My home field is 2550 AGL. John Deakin's articles are gold!

I fly with a 5gallon container of TKS fluid int he cargo area which doubles as ballast.

Do you have the 310 HP STC?

I believe I asked @CAV Ice the same question a few months ago. I think the panels are the same thickness. Primary difference is backup pump and heated stall warning system. Plus I think (I could be wrong) FIKI needs dual alternators, TKS not. i have a 94 O with TKS. Have used it occasionally before I got icing. Glad to have it, but it’s only a way to buy time so I can get out of icing asap.

I just had the Garmin AOA installed in my Ovation - I have a G3X Touch. I pick it up Monday - I'll let you know how it is!

I would keep my Mini 6 but I now run ForeFlight and garmin pilot on it so there’s not enough internal storage. I’ll upgrade to the 7. I also have an IPad Pro with cellular but it’s too big and cumbersome. Because I have a G3X and all glass I actually dont use the ipad much at all in flight - it has my POH and manuals on it so I usually connect to avionics so the logs and EIS data will update, send the flight plan to the 750 and then put it in the floor pocket. I use it for charts( very useful) etc and if the 750 or G3X isn’t giving me the flight plan view I want (which is rare). Flight planning is where I use it the most. Anyhow, gonna upgrade because I need the space. Probably disconnect the cellular on my big iPad and get cellular on the mini.

I have an Ovation (310 HP) based in Las Vegas. My mission is flights to LA, Houston, Oregon and Denver. There’s no route the Ovation cannot fly - I’m usually at between 12 and 16k, have on occasion gone to 18k plus but no full face mask so sort of capped there (I could get one tho…) Las Vegas to Houston in about 6 and a bit hours. My O is 170-180 KTAS in 11.5-12.5 GPH LOP at those altitudes. There’s also flaming dragon mode if you want to kick it up closer to 190 KTAS and burn 17+ GPH (I don’t ). I have a useful load of #1100. I was seriously considering a Bravo but decided for the O after running through multiple scenarios (east to west, west to east) and my mission and useful load requirements. The O will outperform the Bravo at mid altitudes and do so sipping a lot less fuel. The Bravo will shine in the Flight Levels. You’ll love the bravo but I couldn’t think of a better cross country bird for me than my Ovation.

Fantastic! My home field! I just registered…

12.4 gph 175 ktas at 9k or so. Will generally get 172 or so 10-16k in the 11-12gph range

Sent you a PM. Yes, WOT. Assuming you have GAMI’s?

Except a touch screen and upgradability to whatever the future may bring. But hey, they're all great systems and science fiction when compared to where we were when I got my certificate in 1986. The issue is whether it provides enough value to compensate for a 2400 hour 20-year-old past TBO engine (no matter how well maintained). For some it may be enough, for others not. As I'm looking in the market for an O for a good friend (I'm already situated nicely with my O), I was merely mentioning that I thought the price was a bit steep regardless of the avionics or maintenance history. Again, I'm sure it'll make a wonderful bird for someone, and I wish the OP a speedy sale!

You nailed it! Us lowly Piston SEL folks will get an announcement about a new $2,000 Garmin watch.

Exactly

No pre judging here. I have many hours behind a G1000. A fine system, no doubt but wouldn’t command a premium over a G3X/GFC500 all glass panel to me. Plus lack of upgrade ability in the G1000 is an issue as technology evolves.

Yes, I have nearly 40 hours in a G6 SR22 with Perspective Plus (G1000). I’ll take my all glass G3X (wEIS)/GF500/GTN750 over it anytime. I find the G1000 interface a little clunky and counterintuitive.

Here is the page from the STC; Fuel flow 160lbs/hr at max power Thats 27.5GPH. Mine is set a little higher than the STC at 29 or so.

If you're looking for a specific 2005 then indeed a unicorn but the G1000 and GFC700 is no better than a G3X and GFC500 etc etc . Plenty of great O's, many with the 310HP STC potentially better value (at least for my friend who's looking). No disrespect to the seller and I'm not of those people who go to posts of planes people list and moan about their prices. This is certainly a beautiful bird that will make someone happy.

LOL YES! That 139K Acclaim!

Engine/Prop is at 2400HRS? I have a friend looking for an O but if the engine is original, its quite a steep ask.

The suggestions are all terrific except his budget is around 139K, SO no turbo saratogas (or any saratogas), 182’s Bonanzas, modern mid bodied Mooneys and up etc etc. The OG has Champagne taste on a beer budget. There may a turbo lance or turbo Arrow at that price range that would fit his mission.

Would you do a single install instead?