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Are LSA aircraft still limited to 10,000feet MSL and no IFR? Even with MOSAIC?

leave it in baggage area. Won't explode.

Anyone have their Ovation painted recently? Any Pireps, recommendations etc? Cost?

Hey @Zippy_Bird - great questions and an enlightening thread. Maybe I missed it but I guess a critical piece of this is "what's your budget"? Hypotheticals are fine but If your budget is comfortable owning an E, and is not comfortable stretching beyond that, you may want to reconsider - perhaps you should keep your E and upgrade incrementally as budget allows. As for a great family hauler, the ones mentioned - lance, Saratoga, Bonanza etc will cost considerably more both in acquisition and maintenance costs. Plus, the prices for the "family haulers" have gone the way of ridiculous of late. I'm seeing some good value these days on Commanche's - but still only a 4 place unless Its a 260B or C model with the third row of seats. If money is not a limiting factor, then a1st generation Saratoga Turbo or Lance Turbo provide good performance with a decent useful load and the Lance Turbo won't break the bank. None of them are a Mooney but then you know that (Commache probably closest) Just my 2c

I think this is a winner lol. https://bumperdumper.com/?srsltid=AfmBOopJ-AZqTi6qEiWagql_-fiEhW4vyu25dNS3qdYu6Ugjx9ln3z3L

My arms arent long enough to reach the oven in the cargo area to turn the pizza.... I'm not Stretch Armstrong!

I have their Pizza oven, and even though it won't fit in the back of my Ovation, it works well in my back yard......

This is technically correct. Although most refer to their STC'd Ovations as "Ovations 3's" but I believe prior to Mooney acquiring the STC, it was a "Standing Ovation". My 1994 Ovation (STC'd) was listed for sale as an "Ovation 3". I had to explain to the broker that Mooney didn't make "Ovations 3's" is 1994.......

While I'm happy to see that FF is continuing its feature upgrades, I have to say, the Dynamic Procedures looks like a hot mess.

Yeah… love to go but…. Have job.

Here's a video with real world tests on an Oxygo5 (Inogen g5) up to 17.500

Could be your speed brakes snapping closed if they are not in the fully stowed position (sometimes they need adjustment). When the master is shut off or the SB breaker pulled, they snap close.

That sucks.

I drape the unit in the carrying case over the pilot seat headrest and rotate it around so it’s basically on the back of the pilots seat. I haven’t bothered with eh step down transformer. I get around 6-7 hours on level 5 which keeps my O2 levels at 95+ at 17k. I have the big battery. I’m thinking of getting another battery so If I needed to use it for longer it would be available. A second battery is cheaper that having someone rig a step down converter and putting in a cigar lighter connection and another breaker (which I dont have)

Yikes! Thats worrying.

Wow, this thread went down a Rabbit hole... here the OP's question: "Okay guys and gals. How did you get an Inogen? I have been trying for years to score one of those but keep running into the same problem. Called the company and they say you need a doctors script. Go to my family doctor and he says that I don’t have breathing issues so he won’t write a script. Called AOPA and they told me to get a bottle. Told them I didn’t want a bottle. So what’s the secret?" LOL

RIP

I’ve been landing here at HND for years as it’s my home base. Just can’t get complacent but that’s true for any landing

The PC12, Piper Meridian and Mooney were all recent landing mishaps at HND. The C172 next to them was an engine out that landed beyond the field. All the others are damage due to the microburst. Winds at HND can be a little unpredictable as it blows in through the ridge in the mountains about 5 miles south of the field. Sometimes we get different wind directions on the north and south end of the runway. There is no precision approach and straight in traffic to the 35’s can often leave you high and fast. There is no xwind runway.

Just saw this on the FB group. Is this the end for Mooney?

Jimmy is a very nice guy.

No fight to pick. And I 100% agree with your take. I'd be VERY careful looking at this bird's maintenance records.

If you've got all of the plumbing still there for the O2 system I would get a new bottle (composite ones are lighter). You'll be losing alot of the functionality of the Ovation if you only fly below 12,500ft. No, the useful load is, I would hope 930# as stated in the ad. I'm assuming this was the load with the bottle installed. It will be slightly better with no bottle. However, if the 930# was UL with the bottle REMOVED, then your useful load will be less by whatever the bottle weighs. Speedbrakes are a must and you should get them repaired. However, not cheap to repair.

A couple of the things about BA to look for (other than maintenance history in logs, damage history etc). 1) Speed brakes inop??? That can be quite expensive. Find out why. 2) Also, check why" Factory O2 plumbing, tank has been removed". Is this something you want to install? Was the useful load with the O2 or without? If without, adding it back will likely drop your useful load into the 870# area....

I would imagine none - Starts at 1 wingspan (36') and most effective 20% of that (7.2')