T. Peterson

One more thing to break and for which to fight to get parts. My feeling is unless something is a real measurable improvement, I don’t need it. I don’t have it on my 231, but if I wanted something, it would be rudder trim as opposed to a dampener. Keep in mind I am a newcomer to Mooney ownership and small airplanes in general. Lots of fellas here have have exponentially more experience than do I. Many are engineers and very intelligent to boot. But after reading on this forum of all the issues folks have acquiring parts and airplanes grounded for weeks and even months, I am inclined to be even more of a minimalist!! Torrey

Sounds like you are a can-do fella! I am rooting for you! Torrey

I don’t have a clue about what you said, but it was sure said impressively!! Ya got my vote!

Is that the venerable, erudite and sophisticated Mr -a- himself in the blue shirt? Torrey

I guess there are benefits to being an old curmudgeon with only a year and a half to go anyway!! You young guys are wise not to antagonize anyone.

If you can buy justice, it is not justice, merely avarice. Yes, I agree, money and power are destroying real justice across a huge spectrum of our nation.

Hi Alex, I don’t know why the Notam didn’t/doesn’t show. Possibly a momentary glitch at the time. I very much appreciate you sharing your experience. I have a whole lot of flying experience, but almost none in GA. I just bought my first airplane a couple of months ago and therefore in a very real sense I am a rookie. My takeaway is that if something like that happens to me I will just ask the controller for the Notams. You did your due diligence but came up short. Stuff happens. You learned, I learned and we all have benefited from your candid confession. No one got hurt or got in trouble with the FAA. PTL! Ignore the unkind posts. We all need grace from time to time and need to learn to grant it to others. Thanks again, Torrey

I disagree with your first sentence while agreeing with the rest. The prosecution and defense are certainly biased as you point out, but hopefully the jury is not, and that after hearing both sides they come to a “just” decision. If that has never been the objective then both the Constitution and the notion of justice is meaningless.

Hey Will, Love your post and you are right on! You know if you hold the emergency cancel button as you disconnect the AP, it will mute that obnoxious Cavalry charge. Of course it makes the check airmen go apoplectic, so don’t do it on a line check. It doesn’t hurt a thing and it does NOT disable the warning for the rest of the flight!

If we have learned anything from observing the government in the last 6 years it is that they can and will punish anyone they don’t like and justify and exonerate anyone they do like. Actual criminal behavior and actual innocence is becoming more and more irrelevant as our so called justice system disintegrates. How is this relevant to us? If you are determined enough or wealthy enough to own and operate a personal airplane you are in a class of people that is increasingly loathed. It matters not how hard you worked or how much you sacrificed you will be pilloried as privileged and undeserving. If you don’t see this, you are simply not paying attention. Torrey

I don’t have the ability to describe things in the technical terms of which many of you are capable, but in my simple mind, flaps enable me to use a shorter runway but the cost is decreased climb performance. As you stated, the best climb performance is a clean wing but requires a longer runway and reduced abort options. Higher takeoff speed probably also increases tire wear and possibly other negatives of which I am unaware. Of course V1 and V2 considerations are paramount in the twin jet world. I think the gentleman advocating raising flaps in ground effect is attempting to take advantage of both optimums, but I rather agree with the fellow that said if you’re attempting that you probably landed somewhere you should not. Torrey

I hope you are wrong, Cliffy, but I can’t fault your logic. Torrey

It’s not even the money, though I am quite conscious of the expense. Going to a big airport to wade first through metropolitan traffic, then parking, then TSA and finally the boarding process is maddening! I told my wife I am never going to a big airport after I retire unless it is a family emergency. The blessing of being able to fly into a little mom and pop airport only minutes from my grandchildren is simply wonderful.

Andy makes a funny!!

I don’t have a dog in this fight. I hope all forms of transportation get better and cheaper whether powered by gas, electricity or bear poop, but this post is hilarious! I will add that even though these pictures reflect the colossal failure of some ideas, they did contribute to the advancement of aviation if only to demonstrate what doesn’t work. Thomas Edison did not hit a homer his first time at bat. At any rate, I very much enjoy all of your posts. You are a bunch of smart fellas on both sides of an issue. Just strive to be very cordial when you disagree! Torrey

I think you had a little more fun than I did!! Lol! I do have many fond memories of my part 135 experience. The schedule could be grueling as we got 10 hours rest after a trip and then back on the beeper, but you were never bored!!

I am thoroughly impressed with this fella’s drive and motivation. He is going to succeed! Torrey

You guys are a hoot!!

Your sentiments about allowing an airplane to just rot away in the hangar are most likely shared by us all, but inviting the government to fix it with some tax or other is like getting in bed with a Cobra because you are mad at a mosquito. It is in the DNA of government to expand, tax and control. We should do everything in our power to limit their voracious appetite, not encourage it! Torrey

I flew with Connie one time and was chewed out by him one time!! I don’t think I ever met Scott, but Doug (Connie’s nephew) was running the part 135 operation when I left for Spirit in 1998.

Thumbs up Mr. -a-!!

I have no Boeing time, so maybe I am just used to the Bus and don’t notice. Your Lear history sounds similar to mine, but I certainly never even met Bill Lear. I think it is very cool that you actually got to fly with him. What a historical treat! l flew part 135 in the mid nineties at Kalitta Flying Service. My only claim to fame is that I did get to fly serial #9. It was a Lear 23 and still had electric fuel pumps in the tip tanks. Eventually it went through Dmate and came out with jet pumps. Thanks for the posts and the trip down memory lane. Torrey

I don’t think the 320 series wallow around anymore than any other swept wing jet. Dutch roll is an unavoidable characteristic of swept wing airplanes, thus the reason for yaw dampers. I certainly concede that you can feel the yaw damper working to alleviate the roll from time to time, and when hand flying the Bus a judicious tap on opposite rudder will help, but I haven’t noticed any excessive Dutch roll at all. Certainly not anymore than the 20 series Lears I flew a hundred years ago.

Thank you!! Torrey