AlexLev

I think 18k would be great as long as the airframe is not corroded. Make sure you check the guts of the plane.

This guy bought a Cherokee 140 for 1K: http://www.thisoldcherokee.com in a similar situation and it turned out to have an airworthy engine.

I'm curious if it's possible to get a quality full strip and reseal of both tanks for under 5K (2.5K/tank)?

Yeah, seeing about replacing the 170B with something slimmer makes sense. I am not sure I can move the A/P to where the ADF is just because of the wires. I'll look into it more. Thanks!

I'll look into seeing if I can make some space..here's the panel: any ideas?

This is meant to replace a 530w, not a 430w, right?

Oh man. My wife prefers the backseat to the front seat. I first sat in the backseat during Oshkosh last year. It's a little tight, but not any tighter than the footspace you get on a basic non first class airline flight. Mooney's are awesome planes. I'd definitely be happy to have you sit in mine if I lived near Charlotte! I'm sure someone will help you out.

I actually had the gear warning come on yesterday and it was very useful. The gear was down, but not locked in. Came on at about 12-14" of MP.

Please! Can you PM it? If my Turn Coordinator is bouncy and a bit unstable in turbulence, but the autopilot works fine, would Michael be the person to overhaul it?

What repair shop are you calling? I heard Autopilots Central may be able to help from a BeechTalk thread. Have you tried calling them?

My airplane has a very old Pathfinder P2A autopilot with a heading/nav mode. As far as I know, the turn coordinator drives it but I'm not sure if it somehow uses the engine driven vacuum pump too. I know the Mooney PC leveling system did, but not sure about the Pathfinder. Does anyone know whether the Pathfinder will continue to work if engine driven vacuum pump fails? Would be a great help in a vacuum failure, obviously. Checked the flight supplement for it, but it didn't have any info.

What insurance co.? Does this mean that if our planes develop corrosion and we have a certain kind of insurance, it's possible to have the repair be covered? Please share more details...

I agree with you too, Paul. Depends on mission and budget really. If someone needs an autopilot (which is really useful for XC flying), it would be tough to work with the 65C until something like TrueTrak comes to market. If someone is looking for a machine to build hours for their commercial checkride and maybe sell afterward, perhaps the 65C might be better for them. My advice would probably be to save up the extra $ and find an F/G model :P, but I rarely have less than 3 people in my Mooney, so short bodies rarely entered the equation for me. All I'm saying is if I had a 30k budget, I would definitely look at that 20C before looking at a Cherokee 140 or a C150; I'm sure we're probably all in agreement there!

Yeah, seems like a decent airplane; higher-time engine (curious when it was overhauled and by who), but a 430 (is it WAAS?) and it's definitely awesome that he's owned it for practically 50 years. If I was in the market, for a 20C, I think 30k is probably a decently fair price for it as long as the PPI checks out.

Just saw this Mooney come up for sale locally today, ad attached below in case anyone is interested, not a ton of information or pictures, but I've pasted it below: 1965 MOONEY MK21 RANGER M20C • $35,000 • ACCEPTING OFFERS • Beautiful 1965 Mooney Mk21 Ranger M20C N5804Q Owned since 1972 Always hangared Impeccable maintenance IFR panel TT 2690 Engine 1395 SMOH Annual 9-2016 GPS- Garmin GNS 430 GPS/Comm- Garmin GNC 250XL Audio panel- Garmin GMA340 Nav/Comm-Narco Mk 12D DME- Narco 890 This Mooney has been in the family for 45 years! It has updated paint and interior. It needs nothing Aircraft is available for inspection. I am accepting offers. Call Dave for appointments or more information • Contact David Thering, Owner - located Akron, NY USA • Telephone: 716-432-6858

That looks great! It looks like you have quite a setup. I do make it out to Philly every now and then, just need a reason (even if it's just to meet a fellow Mooney owner). Do you know which of those sized crates will easily fit and could potentially fit in the baggage compartment area? I'd like to avoid damaging the interior and keep things as easy as possible for myself.

Can ya send me the link?

Very useful info! Thanks everyone! Much appreciated!

I have an M20G and want to do more volunteer flights for Pilots 'n Paws. Does anyone have experience with the crate sizes? They can apparently be assembled inside the luggage and don't have to necessarily fit through the doors; the sizes offered are: 19" L x 12.5" W x 10" H 24.6" L x 16.9" W x 15" H 26" L x 18.5" W x 16" H 28" L x 20" W x 19.2" H 32" L x 22.5" W x 24" H Anyone have experience with knowing which size works well for a mid-body Mooney to either keep in the luggage compartment or in the backseat? -A

Would you be able to add me please?

I have a G and it's my first airplane and I adore it. I've taken it with 4 people and have even been able to load it up with 4 pax + full fuel and be 5lbs undergross. I do wish I had an extra hundred pounds of UL, but what Mooney owner doesn't? As far as speed -- I get about 136kts, which I think is respectable for a 180HP engine. That particular airplane? It's tough to say...the engine is pretty old. That would be my biggest concern, but you honestly never know and should be prepared to overhaul at all times IMO. I bought my airplane with an engine that was overhauled in 2002 and had about 900 hours on it at the time.

I was flying in IMC today training for my IFR rating and in the clouds noticed what may have been some roughness and put carb heat on, despite the carb temp gauge not being in the yellow. It may have improved, but then later when I put it on a second time, the engine seemed to run rough (cough every once in a while) with carb heat on. My instructor speculated it was because the unfiltered air may have some water that was disrupting the engine. Is it common to get a coughing engine with carb heat on in the rain? I know I have less power with carb heat on, but the cough is a little startling in IMC especially (makes me want to take carb heat off immediately)...

My #1 cylinder can get down to 246 in the winter time. Trust me, it's a good thing as when the temperatures get up to 85F, it will go up to 320, etc. Enjoy the extra cooling, I was concerned about it, but decided it wasn't a problem and actually a good thing after speaking to a few people.

So forgive my ignorance - I'm hoping to educate myself on this; never done this before and not too educated on rust, but making my way through this: https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/Advisory_Circular/AC_43-4a_.pdf and http://www.themooneyflyer.com/issues/MooneyFlyerOctober2012.pdf To fix: I would spray the surface with something like this: http://www.tcpglobal.com/TAL3509.html?gclid=CI_fx8TDtNMCFc2KswodOdMFcw#.WPlxzVMrK1s and then either apply clear nail polish to it in order to see if the condition continues to occur and then use nail polish remover and then touch up paint? I'm intimidated, maybe I should talk to a shop or a friend who is an aircraft owner who can help me become more confident on working the plane. I'm a young guy in my late 20s and consider myself a bit mechanically intimidated, also afraid of rust condemning the airplane at some point. The aircraft did have a lot of service in Monterey, CA during its last 5 years of life so perhaps it lived on the coast for at least 5 years, it looks great but was painted in 2012; but did pass a prebuy at an MSC with the inside of being really clean. Anyway - thanks for all the replies so far!

I just threw in $25 for his family's fund: https://www.gofundme.com/enders-family-fund/ -- if anyone else thinks it's appropriate, I'm sure they would appreciate it.