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Just wanted to take a moment to thank all of you that shared your flights and stories on this thread. Hope everyone had a great year in 2019 we are all so blessed to be able to take to the sky in our machines. No matter what type Mooney or other great aircraft you fly they all bring a very special set of emotions and joy that we all have in common. Wishing all of you a happy and blessed new year

I don't think $50K would buy a similar C today, but it for sure won't buy an E or F. this is true in the current market unless one can find the mythical unicorn. The OP indicated a budget of 50k but does not mention if this leaves money for always needed issues as time passes. And as so often happens with this kind of thread the op asked and then makes no effort to provide more information about the type of mission and loading requirements they are going to have basically no follow up at all.

Oh hell yes.

Welcome Warren, you don't mention number of expected passengers if more than 1+1 most times you might want an F as you know the leg room is better in the back. However, we have never had a problem with 1+2 but then I'm only 5 10 which means my seat is quite a bit forward. Based on your budget I think your best bet is the C because you will be able to purchase the best version out on the market and still have some money saved for the always needed fixes that seem to come up with new to you airplanes. If you made those coast to coast trips in a 150 then any Mooney you pick will have much better range and speed. Personally I like the manual gear and flaps. And I know this may be disputed (normal for me) but I think the simple carburetor is more reliable than the fuel injection. Carb ice has never been an issue with our C. Also an o360 is less expensive to rebuild than an io360. Good luck

Yesterday our friends granddaughter came to visit, she's eight and the first thing she asked was if we could go flying. It was severe clear so couldn't say no to that. We flew down to Nut tree as there is a Fentons ice creamery just a short walk from the field. Don't know what got into Snoopy but was actually able to see the CHT gauge peak and decline before engine began to run rough at least 25 degrees LOP. Never been able to do that. We were at 6500ft 2450/21 getting IAS of 137 knots. OAT was about 35 degrees and altimeter was 29.92 snoopy likes cold air. Not nearly a single bump in the air but VCB was gusting to 21 at about 80 degrees off runway heading. Anyway was a great day to be out flying.

Engineering and science still can't agree on this because they think out of the left side of the brain. Us right side folks know it's all about delta P which really means pixie dust. It's not about who makes the best wing or most powerful engine but who makes the best pixie dust. I have really enjoyed this thread.

Welcome sir, are you selling or are you looking at the described to buy

I met Bennett at a gathering put on by Lake Aero. He was very friendly and seemed very interested in my flying I enjoyed speaking with him. Also a favorite poster here as mentioned before always straight forward and respectful to others. God speed sir may you always have smooth air beneath your wings.

Merry Christmas to all and whatever brings you joy may your holiday season be a happy one

For some reason could not add text to pics above . Well we got a break in the weather yesterday and today so we got Snoopy out for some Santa sleigh ride shopping to STS yesterday and VCB today. I have to say Sonoma Jet Center continues to impress. They were very busy and the courtesy cars had just gone out ahead of our arrival. They arranged a lift ride for me and my wife down town and then got us another ride to return to the airport and covered the cost of both trips. Above and beyond good service. Nice flights both days without any problems other than the crowds at the mall. Living in the country you lose tolerance for critical mass but was nice to see so many people out enjoying the holiday season. Merry Christmas every one and wishes for safe travels throughout the season.

Poor choice of words my bad not what I meant. I guess I really had no business responding to this thread. It was a rainy day and I was bored. Sorry everyone. im out

And Paul as I said if I were an IFR pilot and flew the kind of missions you are able. I would be on the other side of that coin. I think horses are beautiful animals but I've no desire to ride one. Sorry if I pissed you off not my intention but it seems like people don't accept my version of the passion for flight as its not the same as theirs. I do have a garmin 296 and like the information it provides. Everyone wants to see the costs associated with flying and owning an airplane go down but all we talk about is this upgrade and that upgrade shoot most of your panels are worth twice my whole plane. And I celebrate all you are able to do with your awesome Mooney's.

I guess I have to re read it again but I'm pretty sure he discusses many variations of air flow and its relationship to angle of attack not just chord and direction of flight. As for new technology my old c is based on a design not much newer than a cub. I think a C is a great stick and rudder fun to fly basic airplane the only thing I miss about my C150 is doing full stalls to fully developed spins. I'm not advocating that folks shouldn't enjoy equipping there airplane with the best tech money can buy. I just derive my enjoyment of flying from a different perspective. If I were an instrument rated pilot that needed to fly in challenging weather I would be on the other side of this coin but that's not me. I like these discussions because it reminds me of what's important when it comes to safe operation of an airplane. I remember a fellow called me stupid or something not nice years ago around here because I mentioned the importance of airspeed well his comment got me thinking about the importance of AOA and wing loading. All I'm saying is the more people rely on technology the more they risk losing the ability to feel what's going on around them. Please correct me if I'm wrong but aren't the airlines going back to a greater emphasis on stick and rudder skills in their training because too many incidents have been attributed to the pilots dependence on the airplane doing all the flying.

I think your excitement about gettIng your PPL is great and helping your family this way also commendable. If you decide to do your flight training in the Mooney and if you are able to resolve the insurance issues i would strongly recommend a CFI that has Mooney experience as opposed to your friend. Doesn't matter if he is a good pilot and instructor what he can't be is well versed in instructing how to fly a Mooney. I know they aren't the most challenging to fly but they do have certain requirements like all types do and you would be doing yourself a disservice by not using a CFI that can teach you rather than learn at the same time. I'm sure your friend would understand and respect that. Mostly be patient as there are many steps on this path and they are all important and worth the effort

I see the pre heater sitting there by the nose wheel, can't for the life of me figure out where it will fit under the cowling

Not saying you won't get warnings but don't you think you should know what your attitude of flight should be without it. Do you think Langewiesche needed such a device. People become over dependent on all kinds of technology and then when it fails there is an inherent lack of skill to keep things from going sideways. Quite a number of instructional videos on the magenta pilot phenomenon as an example of basic navigational skills becoming less proficient as more and more technology takes over. Yes you can have lots of back up. But for heavens sake the best part of flying is flight, being in touch with the sensation of it. It's what I love about riding motorcycles it's so pure. I guess I'm just a romantic.

Were having quite the winter storm out west wind blowing hard enough to shake the house. The western storm door has opened which is great news for California.

So what your saying is you used the feel and performance of your airplane to calibrate your AOAi which is something that everybody piloting an airplane should be doing at all times weather they have the indicator or not. I'm sure the AOA is a great tool but in my opinion knowing or better yet feeling what your airplane is telling you should be better understood than an instrument that could become inaccurate or fail perhaps leading you to believe life is good when in fact it may not be. As usual I accept that this opinion will not be popular, story of my life. It's aaalllll good.

This, except since I'm quite paranoid it gets at least 3 confirmation pulls accompanied by verbally siting gear down and locked green light on. Weather I'm putting gear up or down the motion of the bar is controlled and not allowed to swing free.

The Mooney tail makes it easier to find your airplane in a crowded parking ramp. Al probably finished Christmas shopping one day and couldn't remember where he parked so wanted his airplane to stand out in a crowd. Merry Christmas every body.

Are you trying to get the hull covered and for how much value. If so you might try just getting liability coverage until you get your PPL and have your instructor listed on the policy since you won't be PIC initially while you are training.

Wide range of performance for our C depending on how I fly I have seen 154 knots TAS down low pushing WOT 2500rpm at 4500 feet. A three heading gps flight at 8000 feet with two on board gave 149 knots and at 10500 feet with two and heavy fuel produced 140 knots true. Our C is nothing special has a few mods but no dorsal fin or even re positioned calipers so I have no doubt that a really clean fresh motor modded C could be a high 150 to low 160 knot airplane. But again it has a lot to do with how hard you want to push it. Cool winter weather makes a big difference as well, ours hates hot weather. Knot bad for 180hp with 1015 pounds of useful load. Short bodies are great little airplanes.

Definitely one of the coolest threads around here lately

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