ArtVandelay Posted Saturday at 11:46 AM Report Posted Saturday at 11:46 AM Social Security administration just announced SS is going up 2.8%, they based this on the prices of Apples (whether that’s the kind you eat or the kind with batteries is unclear to me )Anyhow, in the aviation world; pre covid T hangar rate for my home airport was $400, it’s been steadily rising, but this year is a new record, a whopping 75% increase putting new rate to $1063. 1
LANCECASPER Posted Saturday at 12:36 PM Report Posted Saturday at 12:36 PM 47 minutes ago, ArtVandelay said: Anyhow, in the aviation world; pre covid T hangar rate for my home airport was $400, it’s been steadily rising, but this year is a new record, a whopping 75% increase putting new rate to $1063. Doesn't make it any easier to accept, but that's probably more a "supply and demand" situation than inflation.
1980Mooney Posted Saturday at 02:43 PM Report Posted Saturday at 02:43 PM 2 hours ago, ArtVandelay said: Social Security administration just announced SS is going up 2.8%, they based this on the prices of Apples (whether that’s the kind you eat or the kind with batteries is unclear to me ) Anyhow, in the aviation world; pre covid T hangar rate for my home airport was $400, it’s been steadily rising, but this year is a new record, a whopping 75% increase putting new rate to $1063. Is your hanger owned by a city/county or is it owned by an FBO that’s been consolidated by private equity? Regardless, it sounds similar to what Hartzell has done with product pricing. And now Mooney – across the board 30% price increase…
Marc_B Posted Saturday at 03:35 PM Report Posted Saturday at 03:35 PM I put these squarely in a volume available vs customer demand category. Same as V-band clamps. Prices rose cause they could. But as fewer and fewer resources are put towards GA, the number of these items and prices will continue to rise.
TaildraggerPilot Posted Saturday at 04:49 PM Report Posted Saturday at 04:49 PM 5 hours ago, ArtVandelay said: Social Security administration just announced SS is going up 2.8%, they based this on the prices of Apples (whether that’s the kind you eat or the kind with batteries is unclear to me ) Anyhow, in the aviation world; pre covid T hangar rate for my home airport was $400, it’s been steadily rising, but this year is a new record, a whopping 75% increase putting new rate to $1063. You might want to check with the status of any FAA grants to your airport. They can sway fees such as tie-down’s and hangars.
ArtVandelay Posted Saturday at 05:28 PM Author Report Posted Saturday at 05:28 PM Is your hanger owned by a city/county or is it owned by an FBO that’s been consolidated by private equity? Regardless, it sounds similar to what Hartzell has done with product pricing. And now Mooney – across the board 30% price increase… Privately owned.
ArtVandelay Posted Saturday at 05:29 PM Author Report Posted Saturday at 05:29 PM You might want to check with the status of any FAA grants to your airport. They can sway fees such as tie-down’s and hangars. I’m leaving, my next door neighbor is also leaving. Small sample size, but that’s 2 for 2.
1980Mooney Posted Sunday at 03:36 AM Report Posted Sunday at 03:36 AM 10 hours ago, ArtVandelay said: Privately owned. Capitalism at work….
Ragsf15e Posted Monday at 02:18 AM Report Posted Monday at 02:18 AM Just got the tax valuation for my hangar. It’s a T hanger, concrete floor, enclosed, rolling door in a line of 20. Pretty good, but just electrical, no heat. Oh, and the ground lease expires in ~3.5 years, so the airport can take it from us then. In 2023 it was valued at $40k. Last year, $68k. This year $80k. So it doubled in value in 2 years? That’s only the building too, the airport keeps the land. I can’t wait to see what they want to charge us to rent it from them when they take them! I don’t have high hopes for a lease extension.
Pinecone Posted Monday at 08:20 PM Report Posted Monday at 08:20 PM Yeap, prices double for most everything, and the CPI goes up by single digits. REALLY????
Thedude Posted 18 hours ago Report Posted 18 hours ago On 10/27/2025 at 1:20 PM, Pinecone said: Yeap, prices double for most everything, and the CPI goes up by single digits. REALLY???? CPI measures a lot of things that may be skewing it. In my personal experience, there is currently very noticeable inflation for day to day life.
Pinecone Posted 18 hours ago Report Posted 18 hours ago Well, part of the issue is in the 90s, they removed fuel and food from the index. WTF?!
philiplane Posted 17 hours ago Report Posted 17 hours ago (edited) On 10/25/2025 at 8:36 AM, LANCECASPER said: Doesn't make it any easier to accept, but that's probably more a "supply and demand" situation than inflation. In South Florida, it's due to monopolistic practices. The main player sets rental rates based on "market rates", which is laughable, They ARE the market. And for $1450 a month, up from $900 just four months ago, you get a 50 year old rusty metal box with roof leaks, no insulation, substandard electrical, rolling doors that fall off the tracks, and more. Oddly, there are brand new Cat 3 hurricane rated hangars that rent for less money nearby. But that airport is one of the few that doesn't have the big players running things. The game plan is to jack prices to drive out the little guys, and then claim there's no demand for tee hangars. Then they demolish them, and put up large jet hangars. The cities are all onboard with this, because they get a cut of the fuel sales. And they'll sell a lot more fuel to a Global Express than to a Mooney M20C. And after the crazy rate increases, there is more turn over, and more empty hangars. Many tenants are still at the airports, but they've out on the ramp now. So it's not really true supply and demand. It's extortion, using our tax dollar supported airports against us. Edited 17 hours ago by philiplane 2
Jackk Posted 16 hours ago Report Posted 16 hours ago You expect the same fed that caused inflation to admit to how bad it is?? Really? 1
Schllc Posted 16 hours ago Report Posted 16 hours ago 1 hour ago, Pinecone said: Well, part of the issue is in the 90s, they removed fuel and food from the index. WTF?! that should be all that is measured....
Schllc Posted 16 hours ago Report Posted 16 hours ago 1 hour ago, philiplane said: In South Florida, it's due to monopolistic practices. The main player sets rental rates based on "market rates", which is laughable, They ARE the market. And for $1450 a month, up from $900 just four months ago, you get a 50 year old rusty metal box with roof leaks, no insulation, substandard electrical, rolling doors that fall off the tracks, and more. Oddly, there are brand new Cat 3 hurricane rated hangars that rent for less money nearby. But that airport is one of the few that doesn't have the big players running things. The game plan is to jack prices to drive out the little guys, and then claim there's no demand for tee hangars. Then they demolish them, and put up large jet hangars. The cities are all onboard with this, because they get a cut of the fuel sales. And they'll sell a lot more fuel to a Global Express than to a Mooney M20C. And after the crazy rate increases, there is more turn over, and more empty hangars. Many tenants are still at the airports, but they've out on the ramp now. So it's not really true supply and demand. It's extortion, using our tax dollar supported airports against us. yes, that is what is happening at our airport with rent. The claim that they aren't market rates is somehwat of a canard. the metal boxes were built for 35k 50 years ago, and the land and hangar was built with taxpayer money. The base cost to build and maintain should set the market for a public owned product, not as much as you can get. we are seeing 20% increases in rent yearly 5 years running
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