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SUBJECTS FOR A MAINTENANCE SEMINAR- YOUR INPUT WANTED

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cliffy Grand Master

cliffy

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Interesting that a current thread is in this arena right now-

Working on another multiday Mooney maintenance seminar (somewhere overseas :-) (May come to pass and may not.) 

and looking for your input as to what subjects "you" would like to see covered in the  class room

and in a hands on session in the hangar if YOU were to attend same.

Just trying to see if my current iteration covers the majority of what Mooney owners would want to see. 

Pass along your ideas please.   

This is for airframe and engine subjects only  We won't go into the multitude of electronic panel options out there.

 

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47U

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56 minutes ago, cliffy said:

Pass along your ideas please.   

Would an hour spent discussing the 100hr inspection checklist be beneficial?  How many owners have actually read through the checklist to know what your shop is tasked to do during the inspection?  For instance, is your shop/A&P/IA performing a pre-inspection engine run?

https://mooney.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/100-HOURANNUAL-Inspection-Guide.pdf

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Marc_B Veteran

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+1 going through annual inspection, including lube points, choice of lubricants and timing/frequency of lubrication.

Common items on a Mooney PrePurchase Inspection and what to make sure gets done.

Common points where corrosion are found and easy ways to look for them.

Gear & flight control rigging; what's right and how to tell when it's wrong.

Removing & replacing gear doors for grass field landings.

Examples of various equipment on the bench (i.e. alternator, magneto) and how they're serviced, what fails, and maintenance should/must do's.

Gear swings and emergency gear deployment.

Easy owner performed maintenance items (oil changes, tire change, etc.).

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Paul Thomas Proficient

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How to hands on:

  1. Weight the airplane
  2. Do an oil change
  3. Remove/Install/Time mags
  4. Baffling inspection and repairs
  5. Remove, clean, check gaps, and re-instal plugs
  6. Compression check
  7. Fuel injection system
  8. Fuel system inspection & o-ring replacement (lines, gascolator, gas caps). There could even be enough o-rings that everyone who wants to can re-do their gas caps.
  9. How to put the airplane on jacks.
  10. Replace a tires, re-pack bearings
  11. Lubrication points
  12. What to look for during the airframe inspection

Classroom portion

  1. Interpret borescope images
  2. Interpret engine data for engine monitor
  3. How to read your logbook
  4. How to keep track of upcoming items that are due
  5. How do search for AD, SB
  6. How/where to buy parts from
  7. Discussion on what parts to stock
  8. How to communicate with the IA/AP
  9. When to schedule maintenance
  10. How to deal with various AOG issues
  11. I learned from that maintenance version
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natdm Proficient

natdm

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No input other than I’d watch or attend as much of this as possible. Amazing topics. 

Marc_B Veteran

Marc_B

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https://www.ocflightlessons.com/maintenance-workshop/ 

https://aufwind.aero/workshop/

https://normanaviation.com/owner-maintenance-workshop/

A couple places offering owner maintenance workshops. A variety of topics and plans. Not sure who still offers active courses. But owner maintenance workshop seem like great idea in general. Gateway to owner assisted annuals maybe? Or at least a better understanding of what to look for and how systems work. You’d at least be better able to help troubleshoot issues, monitor post maintenance and return to service, and understand your aircraft better. 

DC_Brasil Enthusiast

DC_Brasil

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On 6/29/2025 at 3:18 PM, Paul Thomas said:

How to hands on:

  1. Weight the airplane
  2. Do an oil change
  3. Remove/Install/Time mags
  4. Baffling inspection and repairs
  5. Remove, clean, check gaps, and re-instal plugs
  6. Compression check
  7. Fuel injection system
  8. Fuel system inspection & o-ring replacement (lines, gascolator, gas caps). There could even be enough o-rings that everyone who wants to can re-do their gas caps.
  9. How to put the airplane on jacks.
  10. Replace a tires, re-pack bearings
  11. Lubrication points
  12. What to look for during the airframe inspection

Classroom portion

  1. Interpret borescope images
  2. Interpret engine data for engine monitor
  3. How to read your logbook
  4. How to keep track of upcoming items that are due
  5. How do search for AD, SB
  6. How/where to buy parts from
  7. Discussion on what parts to stock
  8. How to communicate with the IA/AP
  9. When to schedule maintenance
  10. How to deal with various AOG issues
  11. I learned from that maintenance version

Sign me up!

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Will.iam Grand Master

Will.iam

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On 6/29/2025 at 2:18 PM, Paul Thomas said:

How to hands on:

  1. Weight the airplane
  2. Do an oil change
  3. Remove/Install/Time mags
  4. Baffling inspection and repairs
  5. Remove, clean, check gaps, and re-instal plugs
  6. Compression check
  7. Fuel injection system
  8. Fuel system inspection & o-ring replacement (lines, gascolator, gas caps). There could even be enough o-rings that everyone who wants to can re-do their gas caps.
  9. How to put the airplane on jacks.
  10. Replace a tires, re-pack bearings
  11. Lubrication points
  12. What to look for during the airframe inspection

Classroom portion

  1. Interpret borescope images
  2. Interpret engine data for engine monitor
  3. How to read your logbook
  4. How to keep track of upcoming items that are due
  5. How do search for AD, SB
  6. How/where to buy parts from
  7. Discussion on what parts to stock
  8. How to communicate with the IA/AP
  9. When to schedule maintenance
  10. How to deal with various AOG issues
  11. I learned from that maintenance version

Awesome list. To add 

12. how to clean oil check valves especially from to the turbo. 
13. how to clean and lube speed brakes as they are supposed to be lubed annually but how many A&P’s actually do this? 
14. how to clean/ lube the jackscrew. 
15. how to write a proper logbook entry as an owner. 
16. How to pressure test upper deck intake to test for boost leaks

17. how to pressure test for exhaust leaks. 
18. ring flush demo. What does a normal cylinder sound like and fluid passing through vs. a cylinder with a gummed up ring. I have heard it will not move at first but then as the crud gets washed away it becomes easier to pull the prop through. A video demonstrating this would be great as a video is worth a thousand words and would portray what is normal and what is not. 

dkkim73 Mentor

dkkim73

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There was a fantastic highly specific lube talk by an experienced gentleman (I forget the name) at the MPPP last June. 

Priceless as I'd never heard such specificity before. 

@kortopatesmight be able to opine further...

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