Looking for Black Panel Screws

[RoundTwo]

I’ve flipped through the Spruce catalog but didn’t see any of the black panel screws with the black plastic washers. A googling session also turned up nothing. 
Does anyone have a link to any?

Thanks

[Fly Boomer]

6 minutes ago, RoundTwo said:

I’ve flipped through the Spruce catalog but didn’t see any of the black panel screws with the black plastic washers. A googling session also turned up nothing. 
Does anyone have a link to any?

Thanks

https://www.mcmaster.com/products/screws/thread-size~8-32/head-type~flat/drive-style~phillips/finish~black-oxide/

[Marc_B]

https://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/hapages/brassinstrscrew2.php?clickkey=10162854

Black brass screws.  Not sure the length of the screws you're looking for.

[Fly Boomer]

1 hour ago, RoundTwo said:

I’ve flipped through the Spruce catalog but didn’t see any of the black panel screws with the black plastic washers. A googling session also turned up nothing. 
Does anyone have a link to any?

Thanks

Disregard my earlier post.  I didn't realize you were looking for pan head.

[PT20J]

The panel screws that Mooney uses are pan head with a molded on plastic trim washer. Mooney uses them in various colors to match instrument panels and trim. They are made by Stake Fasteners. https://www.stakefastener.com/. I believe black is a standard color. When I contacted them a couple of years ago, the minimum order was $210.

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[Fly Boomer]

34 minutes ago, PT20J said:

The panel screws that Mooney uses are pan head with a molded on plastic trim washer. Mooney uses them in various colors to match instrument panels and trim. They are made by Stake Fasteners. https://www.stakefastener.com/. I believe black is a standard color. When I contacted them a couple of years ago, the minimum order was $210.

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I didn't spend much time on their web site, but I bet it wouldn't be hard to get to $210.  Some cad-plated screws I looked at a couple of days ago were outrageously expensive.

[PT20J]

We just used standard pan head screws, painted them gray to match the new panel and put nylon flat washers underneath the heads so as to not mar the panel.

[Fly Boomer]

2 minutes ago, PT20J said:

We just used standard pan head screws, painted them gray to match the new panel and put nylon flat washers underneath the heads so as to not mar the panel.

I have seen pictures of new panels where all flat head screws were used.  I saw one where all the Phillips head screws were indexed N/E/S/W.  The only way I can see to accomplish that is keep trying screws until you find one that is tight and indexed at the same time.  I guess you could fudge a couple of degrees tighter or looser to get the indexing right, but not much more than that.

[RoundTwo]

On 4/30/2023 at 10:12 PM, PT20J said:

The panel screws that Mooney uses are pan head with a molded on plastic trim washer. Mooney uses them in various colors to match instrument panels and trim. They are made by Stake Fasteners. https://www.stakefastener.com/. I believe black is a standard color. When I contacted them a couple of years ago, the minimum order was $210.

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Ouch!

[RoundTwo]

On 4/30/2023 at 10:57 PM, PT20J said:

We just used standard pan head screws, painted them gray to match the new panel and put nylon flat washers underneath the heads so as to not mar the panel.

I found some black Pan-L-Screws on eBay. If you want 2,000 gray screws, they can be yours for $80.