Skyatty Posted May 4, 2011 Report Posted May 4, 2011 Living and flying in the Rockies, I have decided to purchase a portable oxygen system. Planning to buy a 4-place 24 c.f. aluminum tank for the flexibility of those relatively few flights with my wife and son, Just wondering where to put the tank in the plane ('77 J-model). Those with portable O2, where do you put the bottle? Quote
KSMooniac Posted May 4, 2011 Report Posted May 4, 2011 My Precise Flight system came with a bag/harness combo that hangs securely off my pax seat. Works great for 2 folks, but would obviously be in the way if you have back-seaters. I suppose you could put it on the pilot seat, but then you would have to depend on a pax to operate it... Quote
Magnum Posted May 4, 2011 Report Posted May 4, 2011 I have it in the right rear seat. Easy for me to reach, and if I take three pax with me it is removed in 15 seconds. Quote
Igor_U Posted May 4, 2011 Report Posted May 4, 2011 I’ve placed mine on the back seat, flat in the middle with regulator facing forward; held in place by the Seat belt on the left pax seat. This way both my wife and I can reach it in flight and adjust the O2 flow. It is not on the way if third person is sitting at the back but it would have to go out (as well as my flight bag) if I have two at the back. Igor ‘67F Quote
RJBrown Posted May 5, 2011 Report Posted May 5, 2011 It depends. On short or local flights it is strapped down in the luggage area. On solo flights where it may be needed it is on the RF seat. With two or more in the cockpit it stands vertically on the rear floor between the seats. If I anticipate it's possible use the hoses are attached before flight. If I know I will use it I wear the cannula before roll out. My last plane was turbo and had onboard O2. I still kept a backup handy. A backpack for the passenger seat would work quite well if I had one. On one flight my passenger fell asleep early and weather kept pushing me up to stay on top. At FL190 he awoke and was funtionally unable to put on his O2. Never put it where you cannot controll it. Know YOUR early symptoms for hypoxia. In the heat of action you might find yourself climbing higher than planned and forgetting all about the O2. There are many warnings we all need to understand in this crash report. #1 don't trust the O2 supply trust your body. #2 people react in widely different ways to hypoxia. She got confused and sleepy he died. http://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=38638 It doesn't state it in this report but 21% O2 is compressed air. Quote
LFOD Posted May 5, 2011 Report Posted May 5, 2011 Good info Randy. How in the hell did that passenger survive an inflight breakup like that? Quote
RJBrown Posted May 5, 2011 Report Posted May 5, 2011 Only one wing attached to fuselage. Fluttered down like a "helicopter" tree seed. Landed in a great big tree. Broke apart over 25,000 feet high they figured. Quote
flight2000 Posted May 6, 2011 Report Posted May 6, 2011 Makes you glad that Mooney has a wing spar that is one giant piece instead of being bolted together like some of the others. Quote
aviatoreb Posted May 6, 2011 Report Posted May 6, 2011 Quote: RJBrown It depends. On short or local flights it is strapped down in the luggage area. On solo flights where it may be needed it is on the RF seat. With two or more in the cockpit it stands vertically on the rear floor between the seats. If I anticipate it's possible use the hoses are attached before flight. If I know I will use it I wear the cannula before roll out. My last plane was turbo and had onboard O2. I still kept a backup handy. A backpack for the passenger seat would work quite well if I had one. On one flight my passenger fell asleep early and weather kept pushing me up to stay on top. At FL190 he awoke and was funtionally unable to put on his O2. Never put it where you cannot controll it. Know YOUR early symptoms for hypoxia. In the heat of action you might find yourself climbing higher than planned and forgetting all about the O2. There are many warnings we all need to understand in this crash report. #1 don't trust the O2 supply trust your body. #2 people react in widely different ways to hypoxia. She got confused and sleepy he died. http://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=38638 It doesn't state it in this report but 21% O2 is compressed air. Quote
RJBrown Posted May 6, 2011 Report Posted May 6, 2011 That is spooky too. Is there a proof positive way to confirm that our bottle is correctly filled with O2 rather than compressed air? Quote
danb35 Posted May 6, 2011 Report Posted May 6, 2011 If you're commonly flying at oxygen levels, seems to me that a pulse oximeter is cheap insurance (they can be had for well under $100 and take up very little room in your flight bag). Using one, it will be obvious if you're on pure O2 or something else. Quote
Jerry 5TJ Posted June 1, 2011 Report Posted June 1, 2011 Q: Is there a proof positive way to confirm that our bottle is correctly filled with O2 rather than compressed air? A: You can put a sample of gas from the O2 bottle into a jar or a plastic bag. Set a wooden splinter on fire, blow out the flame. Put the smoldering splinter into the sample of gas. If it is air, it will smolder. If it is 100% O2, the splinter will reignite. Quote
DaV8or Posted June 1, 2011 Report Posted June 1, 2011 Quote: danb35 If you're commonly flying at oxygen levels, seems to me that a pulse oximeter is cheap insurance (they can be had for well under $100 and take up very little room in your flight bag). Using one, it will be obvious if you're on pure O2 or something else. Quote
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