tomn Posted September 23, 2013 Report Posted September 23, 2013 Can someone tell me the correct aircraft type description for filing an IFR flight plan through DUATS in Wing-X? Each time I have tried I get an error message back saying that I have entered an invalid aircraft type. I called wing-x and they thought I might need to add a dash between "M" and "20" but were not sure. So far I have not gotten the correct description and have ended up just calling it in. I know DUATS is working with my credentials because I can get a weather briefing. Tom
ToddDPT Posted September 23, 2013 Report Posted September 23, 2013 Although I have Wing-X, I find fltplan.com much better and easier for filing. Plus, you get the actual route ATC will give you prior to departure so you can have it already copied.
Piloto Posted September 23, 2013 Report Posted September 23, 2013 I just fill mine on the cell phone on my way to the airport. It works all the time. José
Bob_Belville Posted September 23, 2013 Report Posted September 23, 2013 Tom, I use CSC Duats M20P should be what you need. Aircraft Type: M20P Aircraft Identification: Color of Aircraft:W/B/GY/M Aircraft Home Base: Aircraft Wake Turbulance Category: Light etc Your Wake Turbulance Category is chosen automaticly when you enter an aircraft type. All Fields Required Climb 115 Cruise 150 Descent 160 Units True Airspeed Knots or Mach Number Climb/Descent Rate 450 500 Feet Per Minute Fuel Consumption 15 10.5 10 Domestic Equipment: GICAO Equipment(Optional)ICAO Surveillance Equipment: -No ADS-B Capabilites- B1 - ADS-B Capable - 1090 Out B2 - ADS-B Capable - 1090 In/Out -No UAT Capabilities- U1 - UAT Capable - UAT Out U2 - UAT Capable - UAT In/Out -No VDL Capabilites- V1 - VDL Capable - VDL In V2 - VDL Capable - VDL In/Out -No ADS-C Capabilites- D1 - ADS-C Capable - FANS/1 G1 - ADS-C Capable - ATN Both ADS-C S - Standard Equipment* N - None A - GBAS Landing System B - LPV (APV w/SBAS) C - LORAN C D - DME F - ADF G - GNSS/GPS GNSS Augmentation: H - HF RTF J1 - CPDLC ATN VDL Mode2 J2 - CPDLC ATN FANS 1/A HFDL J3 - CPDLC ATN FANS 1/A VDL Mode A J4 - CPDLC FANS 1/A VDL Mode2 J5 - CPDLC 1/A SATCOM INMARSAT J6 - CPDLC 1/A SATCOM MTSAT J7 - CPDLC 1/A SATCOM Iridium I - Inertial Navigation K - MLS L - ILS M1 - SATCOM M2 - MTSAT M3 - IRIDIUM O - VOR R - PBN Approved T - TACAN E1 - FMC WPR ACAR E2 - D-FIS ACARS E3 - PDC ACARS U - UHF RTF V - VHF RTF W - RVSM X - MNPS Y - VHF w/ 8.33khz Spacing Z - Other - Use Remarks Section and NAV/ PBN/ Check up to 8 Performance Based Navigation Types A1 - RNAV 10 (RNP10) B1 - RNAV 5 All Permitted Sensors B2 - RNAV 5 GNSS B3 - RNAV 5 DME/DME B4 - RNAV 5 VOR/DME B5 - RNAV 5 INS/IRS B6 - RNAV 5 LORAN C C1 - RNAV 2 All Permitted Sensors C2 - RNAV 2 GNSS C3 - RNAV 2 DME/DME C4 - RNAV 2 DME/DME/IRU D1 - RNAV 1 All Permitted Sensors D2 - RNAV 1 GNSS D3 - RNAV 1 DME/DME D4 - RNAV 1 DME/DME/IRU L1 - RNP 4 O1 - Basic RNP 1 All Permitted Sensors O2 - Basic RNP 1 GNSS O3 - Basic RNP 1 DME/DME O4 - Basic RNP 1 DME/DME/IRU S1 - RNP APCH S2 - RNP APCH with Baro T1 - RNP APCH with RF (Auth Required) T2 - RNP APCH without RF (Auth Required)
carusoam Posted September 23, 2013 Report Posted September 23, 2013 José, By actually speaking to a human being at an FSS? You're the best! -a-
Piloto Posted September 23, 2013 Report Posted September 23, 2013 José, By actually speaking to a human being at an FSS? You're the best! -a- Must be human since computer and cell phones have trouble with my accent. José
rainman Posted September 23, 2013 Report Posted September 23, 2013 +1 on Jim openskyflyer. My 231 is M20T
tomn Posted September 24, 2013 Author Report Posted September 24, 2013 Thanks folks. I always give them a call for a quick briefing even when I used to file with previous software. I have always thought it was a good idea to get my call on tape just in case. Tom
Bob_Belville Posted September 24, 2013 Report Posted September 24, 2013 Hum, I have not talked to FSS since returning to flying. I really like all the resources available @ DUATS.
1964-M20E Posted September 24, 2013 Report Posted September 24, 2013 If you use your own DUATS account you have a verifiable record that you checked the weather and other information or at least it was all presented to you before your flight. This is all you need even if you do not file a flight plant with DUATS or you go VFR with no flight plan. I’d like to know who reads all of the volumes of information they sent to you on a stand rout briefing. I read the information I feel is relevant to my flight and the conditions under which I’ll be flying Sometimes I'll get two or three DUATS reports in the hours before a flight. 1
Bob_Belville Posted September 24, 2013 Report Posted September 24, 2013 If you use your own DUATS account you have a verifiable record that you checked the weather and other information or at least it was all presented to you before your flight. This is all you need even if you do not file a flight plant with DUATS or you go VFR with no flight plan. I’d like to know who reads all of the volumes of information they sent to you on a stand rout briefing. I read the information I feel is relevant to my flight and the conditions under which I’ll be flying Sometimes I'll get two or three DUATS reports in the hours before a flight. +1 Plus you can store more than one aircraft profiles and flight plans which makes filing quick and easy. Pull up a stored FP, add a departure time, souls on board and go. You can let DUATS suggest routing based on airways or GPS direct and modify as desired. Print out a FP log with segment info, time, fuel, speed etc. Pretty slick. I generally put in the FP the night before the flight, DUATS sends it to FAA 2 hours before dep time. Until then it can be edited.
mike_elliott Posted September 24, 2013 Report Posted September 24, 2013 For part 91, there is no such thing as a legal briefing, and with the cancellation of AC 00-62 (http://www.faa.gov/d...no_AC_00-62.pdf) one is free to get "all the pertinent information pertaining to the flight from "non approved" sources. Ok, all that said, it is still advisable to go on record of having received a weather briefing. Going on record, however, was more to bolster a potential FAA position than to protect you in the event of a potential violation, as are too many of the FAR's.
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