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Ross, nice specimen of a M20E, welcome to the SUPER world

Thanks Clarence !

Reviving this subject! Anyone here knows if « owner produced » cables from MacFarlane are acceptable under Transport Canada rules ? @M20Doc or someone?

1964-M20E, thanks for the tips, cables will be replaced and I used your list to ask a few questions to the potential candidates. ArtVandelay(when I write this, I still see George Costanza running out of the bathroom and yelling), for sure I'm looking at these too! The prop was due this fall, so it will get overhauled, engine mount and shocks are being taken care of, but alternator and starter are fairly new ( +/-150hrs). After a few phone calls, I had to discard Penn Yan, customs fees, paperwork and delays were too much. Two didn't reply yet! I contacted a local engine rebuilder who had cylinder assemblies in stock and was willing to look at a few options with me to save some $$$. So I went with these guys, AeroAtelier from Lac-à-la-tortue, Québec, well known shop north of the border.

I'm leaning towards the full overhaul also. That price for a full OH is low, well relatively low since I could get a few small block Chevys for that price Yes, went through the «While we're there...» dance during the house renovations 10 years ago

For the last couple of years, my Mx found some metal in the filter, so we were following the situation with oil changes every 25hrs, as per Lycoming's recommandations. This year, we found bigger chunks : So the inspection got a little deeper and as suspected, camshaft to #1: 1450hrs on a factory new IO360A1A from 1975, no other symptoms whatsoever but I was expecting it. One of my friend, who owns a flight school, says I should only change the camshaft and followers and continue flying my 50hrs/yr til it dies. My Mx suggest I should go for a complete overhaul, thus keeping the value of the bird. I must say that I tend to agree with my Mx and have started looking at the options. Open to comments and suggestions!

King KT74 and Avidyne AXP340 are both repackaged Trig TT31 transponders. Peregrine Aero STC : http://www.peregrine.aero/library/SA00765DE AML Rev G.pdf , lists the approved GPS sources for the KT74 and the Garmin GTN 650 is in the list. As for installation, it won't be a plug'n play if you want the ADS-B out portion as it will use the GTN650 position and transmit it to the ADS-B antenna. It should be a few hours work to run the cable between the KT74 and the GTN650 and install the speed switch. I have an Avidyne AXP540 and an AXP340 installed and don't need a speed switch as it uses the GPS to activate under an exclusive Avidyne STC, the only additional work, about 2hrs, was the cable from the GPS to the TXP to collect position information.

It only flies CAT 1 approaches PS: Sorry for the hijack and the bad joke !

Some airplanes are engineered so mechanics love them, my Mooney was engineered so I can enjoy every minute of flight

Can you get any benefits from adding a turbo-normalizer to a carburated engine? My answer would be no because of the limited capabilities of a carburator mixing air and fuel outside a relatively standard atmoshpere, ie 6000’’, plus or minus a couple of thousand feet. I guess what I’m saying is you’re probably better off with a fuel injected Mooney with a Ram air system that adds 2in MP compared to than a RayJay Mooney with a carburated engine.

Tell me how it goe$ ! Mine is due in September, in 10 years, it will have about 500hrs TT

Being a Mooney owner, I understand that there are no guaranteed quote$ in general aviation. Looking through the installation manual of the TT Vizion for other types, it looks pretty well engineered and the only surprises should come from individual airframes and not the average fleet. Just a marketing approach but, I wouldn’t use the exception to market a product, in this case your installation of the TT, but would quote the generic cost and would caution that in some cases, actual install costs could be greater.

I was not knocking down the TruTrak system, just putting everything into context. When all of that started, install time was the big plus compared to the other competitor, namely Trio and the STC Group. To refresh memories, TruTrak was aiming for a simplified installation with install times to be 25hrs or less and that was confirmed by dealers who were starting to offer installed TT system in Mooneys in the $7500 range. Basically, $5000 for the hardware (servos, controller harnesses and install kit) and 25hrs install at roughly $100hr. STC group, with its Trio offering, was asking $3000 for the autopilot hardware, another $3000 for the install kit and 30hrs install time at $100/hr. Now for the updated estimate on the TruTrak by Sanjeev. We have jumped from an estimated install time of 25hrs, because of the simpler servo locations and overall engineering to a 40hrs install, a 60% increase, while JesseSaint seems to be sticking with his earlier estimate. If we believe this new information, the STC Group and their Trio offering are now neck to neck with the TruTrak. I think there is «Some more splaining to do!», as some famous character from the Here's Lucy show used to say, so we can compare apples to apples and not oranges!

@Jesse Saint I wonder if this estimate will also be revised?

Hi Sanjeev, your last statement has me worried a bit! We used to say installation was 25hrs or less, which was a selling point compared to others. You’re now saying 40hrs or less?

My point

The statement is true! But... Garmin GFC500 needs additional equipment to be approved to fly coupled approaches. S-tec(Genesis) will provide this feature starting at the 55X level or better ($$$$). Nothing is preventing you to track an approach with the new digital autopilots, be it TT, Trio or Garmin or one of the lower end S-tec.

TT will do approaches, it has an included GPSS. It won't track an ILS but it will shoot a LPV or RNAV approach included in the compatible GPS database, and you'll be legal down to 700AGL This is higher than an ILS or LPV but right now, I hand fly from the start with my Brittain, so I won't mind starting to hand fly it the last few miles. Not to be forgotten, TT will also fly the missed approach and enter and fly a holding pattern. Finally, it will fly a compatible GPS flight plan, including the feature us Brittain Mooney are all looking for, the altitude hold, and this one is coupled to a vertical speed manager. Not perfect, but close enough for a lot of us!

Even worst, that 10 years is shelf life! So if in 2013 you bought an airplane with a prop that was overhauled in 2009, or you purchased a prop overhauled in 2009, in 2019,, ten years after overhaul, by regulation, you have to overhaul the prop, not only IRAN BTW, time SPOH isn’t taken into account, so if during those 6 years you flew 50h/yr, you pay for a complete overhaul after 300hrs

We’ve had these kind of requests made by Trio in the last few years. Sounds like a direct marketing scheme but I don’t want to judge the motives, maybe just a clumsy effort to attract customers. If I was a company trying to attract a new customer base in the 2020 era, I would use options like a GoFundMe campaign with free install with a certain amount of $ or, as some have started doing with the TruTrak also not yet STC’d, ofer an installation included price to build up a clientele. I’m no expert, just my take on it!

Then we should maybe ask @yvesg!

Yeah but you're missing all the fun of taking off snow off your Mooney, flying in the calm and dense winter air @-20C, climbing 1,000/fpm @ 140mph and enjoying maple syrup with your breakfast

Sure but there’s always the WX and EAPIS slowing our efforts. We should arrange something in the New Year, maybe Sherbrooke or Trois-Rivères on the Canadian side or... I am sure Yves would be there if not downsouth!

Living in the Montréal, QC area, I personally use 0C (32F) as my preheat minimum temperature. I use Aeroshell 15W50 and was told by my Mx that single grade oil would require using preheat at a warmer temperature.

Joyeux Noël, Feliz Navidad, Froliche Weinachtfest and Merry Christmas to you all! (Hope I'm not forgetting anyone )