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Safety wire pliers and wire. 2 sizes crescent wrenches 6" and 8". Snap on magnetic ratcheting replaceable tip screwdriver. allen wrench to pull a radio, pocket knife, small electricians phillips and straight screwdrivers. 3d cell maglite. AA batteries. extra seals for the portable O2. plug to jump the plane. tiedown and rope. ozium for passenger comfort. 6 gallon size ziplock freezer bags. small sliplock pliers. a couple of 2AA cell Maglights floating around somewhere. extra reading glasses. Ipad. no leatherman

The Broncos will drop the Chiefs twice this year and show all what the Emperor is wearing. Denver will crush the 49ers in SB and finally get the memory of 1990 put to rest. Hows that for smack talk? To keep an aviation theme: Chiefs enter a flat spin and end up hoping for next year after loosing in the wild card game following a 2 and 5 collapse after the bye..

I do live closer and now that I am planeless I would be glad to offer my pilot services.

Dreamer from another reality? Chiefs will fall.

Turbo Plus started a thread in the General area: http://mooneyspace.com/topic/10441-m20k-intercooler-systems/ The have yet to respond to my "are they ready to ship" question but having started the thread they might be ready to sell them.

The quick spin recovery noted above might be because of the light weight and the forward balance with 2 in front. Try the same manuver at gross with the weight biased to the rear and it might not be so "easy" The prohibition for spins in the owners manual is there for a reason. Keeps pilots from Dieing. All certification tests are run at the worst possible configuration. For spins that would be at gross at the rear balance limit. At that configuration some spins could become unrecoverable. DONT tempt fate. NO "Fricken way"

Is this post a tease or are the intercoolers ready to go, in stock and ready to ship? There was a thread a while back about people looking for intercoolers for the 231. I am a bit surprised that no one has responded to this thread. A very much needed addition to the 231. Any 231 run without an intercooler and an automatic wastegate are simply not being used properly. Run as the factory suggested without these additions yields a 1200 hour or less engine. Run easy enough to get TBO without the additions and what is the point of the turbo at all? Without the intercooler the engine runs hot at altitude and without the wastegate the power is less at altitude. The reason for a turbo is altitude. Without the wastegate and intercooler a 231 is not much more than a 201 with a more expensive engine. When looking for my last plane the intercoolers were not available. As such those not already equipped were excluded from my search. I consider any 231 incomplete without both the intercooler and the wastegate. With the Merlyn the critical altitude rises from 14,000 to 19,500. With the intercooler the engine can then be run properly at the higher altitudes. The really well equipped 231s have 2 intercoolers, an automatic wastegate, a critical altitude of 24,000' and 305HP from a TSIO-520NB. That said with these 2 components the 231 is an attractive economical option to the Rocket.

Mooney is a way superior airframe. But: The lack of a second door is a "perceived" issue. In the real world it makes little difference. On the sales room floor it may make a significant difference. As such the Mooney needs redesigned for that door. Al WAS being cheap, cheap flying WAS what it was all about. Today there is no such thing as cheap flying. A plane must look and feel luxurious enough to cost the $600,000 plus that they bring. Most of the "problems" with the sale of new Mooneys are like a car "needing" 4 wheel disc brakes. In every way rear drum brakes are a "better" solution on almost every car. They work every bit as well, cost less initially and at repair time and last 2,3 and sometimes 4 times longer. BUT every one thinks 4 wheel disc is the way to go so every car gets them. To leave the showroom Mooney "needs" a second door and a first rate interior. Gimmicks like a Cirrus parachute may need to be available.

And after all that I didn't even get a TLS driver to take the bait. The perfect plane in my not so humble opinion is a Rocket, better? And yes after stepping out of N231NH I was more than disappointed by N1079V. Isn't self serving silliness what we are here for?

The Rocket is the best Mooney ever flown. Outperforms the rest of the Mooney products in every way. Bravos are the most embarrassing plane to compare because they get smoked in every way. At least with the 231/252 you can brag about gas mileage. The Rocket power package comes straight out of the Cessna 340 and costs the same as the other Ks to maintain and less than a Bravo. The only plane that comes close is the Acclaim at 5 times the price. I just sold the MSE. Once the new house and hanger are built on Pegasus Airpark I will buy another Rocket. After screwing up and buying a J I won't make that mistake again. Rocket is the best Mooney ever. After being out performed in every category at least the Bravo can brag about rear legroom.

Mooney elevators? last spring the answer was not in stock cant find the tooling. No estimated fill date. Bought used, took three deliveries to get one good elevator. If you are AOG for an elevator they made it sound like" good luck, you're grounded!"

I painted my Rocket N231NH about 15 years ago. That was before swoopy lines and scheme designers. I copied side and a top views onto legal size sheets of paper and tried probably a hundred versions. Played with the shapes and colors for weeks. Once I finalized the scheme I showed the painter where each color and line should break. N11620 caught my eye when looking for other schemes on the net recently.

That looks like the opposing teams opinion in a court case. Is there any case law to support it? Since Flight following is both advisory and voluntary in nature and radio communication is not always clear and precise subtle phraseology differences should not make an apparent suggestion a instruction.

I used the wrong word Flight following is advisory in nature and not an instruction or a clearance. I had used instruction in place of advisory. as written is vauge. I would need to see a legal interpetation. Such as what is :"an area in which air traffic control is exercised" I thought an area that traffic control is exercised is within class A,B,C,D Now I am not so sure what ( means. I thought that Clearances were for IFR including class A and for operations in class B. I thought that Instructions are what you get from tower or approach in C and D. I also think all communications with center while on Flight following are advisory in nature.

N231NH, a K model, was my first plane. Bought 2 years after getting my PPL, I had 375 hours and had my IFR rating. I flew it for 1 year and 100 hours before converting it to a Rocket. I too would trust Scott with my life. Oh thats right I already do!

If you are above 18,000 in class A you are on a IFR clearance. If you are inside class B airspace you ARE on a clearance. If you are in Class C you must obey the approach or tower controller. In class D you must obey the tower. In E and G there is no need for a clearance. This statement is WRONG. Re read the FAR. But if you did get flight following north of KCOS and they instructed you to keep east at that altitude, you would have to obey the instruction. If you are not on a CLEARANCE you do not legally have to comply. Flight following is NOT a clearance. It is advisory in nature NOT compulsary. What part of the first line of 91.123 "(a) When an ATC CLEARANCE has been obtained" Do you not understand.

When I am headed south out of Denver I wont call for Flight following until south of Colorado Springs. Their airspace tops at 10,200. As I fly over at 10,500 or more I listen to CS Approach but do not talk unless called as traffic to another plane. If I ask for flight following north of Co Spgs they send me 20 miles east around their area. Once called as traffic while over their airspace I will for, safety sake, respond "Your unverified traffic is 1079V at 10,500" That way they know what is safe but know they can't vector me around. 91.123 is not as assumed above. Midlifefliyr is wrong. Flight following is NOT a clearance. You can choose not to follow any instruction with impunity. You CANNOT be violated for not obeying an advisory. Kinda stupid but legal. Read below: § 91.123 Compliance with ATC clearances and instructions. (a) When an ATC CLEARANCE has been obtained, no pilot in command may deviate from that clearance unless an amended clearance is obtained, an emergency exists, or the deviation is in response to a traffic alert and collision avoidance system resolution advisory. However, except in Class A airspace, a pilot may cancel an IFR flight plan if the operation is being conducted in VFR weather conditions. When a pilot is uncertain of an ATC clearance, that pilot shall immediately request clarification from ATC. ( Except in an emergency, no person may operate an aircraft contrary to an ATC instruction in an area in which air traffic control is exercised. © Each pilot in command who, in an emergency, or in response to a traffic alert and collision avoidance system resolution advisory, deviates from an ATC clearance or instruction shall notify ATC of that deviation as soon as possible. (d) Each pilot in command who (though not deviating from a rule of this subpart) is given priority by ATC in an emergency, shall submit a detailed report of that emergency within 48 hours to the manager of that ATC facility, if requested by ATC. (e) Unless otherwise authorized by ATC, no person operating an aircraft may operate that aircraft according to any clearance or instruction that has been issued to the pilot of another aircraft for radar air traffic control purposes. (Approved by the Office of Management and Budget under control number 2120-0005)

Thanks Guys.

The first broker failed to bring me an offer he thought was too low before the engine was done. It would have netted me about $5,000.00 more and saved me a years insurance , storage, etc.

I have used Scott and Arapahoe Aero for 20 years. They are the best Mooney shop in the area. I would and did have him do the annuals and prebuys when I purchased both my planes. Being that you are almost local you might just use him for all your service. With the relationship I have had with him over the years I would still have him do the prebuy/annual if it were me. It is not like down in Texas where there are 3 or more shops I would trust to do a pre buy. Anyone else local just is not as qualified, they are the MSC for the area.

Must be something going around here in Denver. Just read Joe Z's goodby, sort of, post. I too am getting ready to retire before I'm too old to enjoy it. The big house is sold and we are moving into a rental till I sell the business. We are heading down to the Phoenix area. Sold the MSE to a guy in Texas. He will fly up to take it on the 12th. Tomorrow morning I will take my 11 year old Boy Scouts up to get their Aviation Merit badges. It will be my last flight in N1079V. We bought a lot on Pegasus Airpark in Queen Creek Arizona 3 years ago. As soon as things get sorted out with the business and the commercial real estate here we will buy a temporary house near Pegasus to live in while we build on our lot. Once I have the house and hanger built I have promised myself another Rocket. 3 to 5 years seems like a conservative timetable to get it all done. After running my business for over 32 years I am ready for some time off. Looking forward to never seeing a snowflake again. We just need to take a Scuba trip, we were going twice a year for a while but work has got in the way for over 2 years now. I think it is time to enjoy what life has to offer while we are still relativly young. 60 plus hour work weeks just don't cut it anymore. Not so much a "Good By" as a "see you again soon" Of course I will still have to pop in to talk Mooneys and whine about the liberal slide into socialism from time to time. Later Randy PS good luck in the future Joe.

His plane is a 1980 M20J. With manual cowl flaps. I believe.

Byron is correct. Dan was wrong. He stated that they could demand them right then and there. A reasonable request involves supplying them to the FAA at a later date. This allows you time to review and correct/update any needed information. The proper answer could be "I will allow you access to those files through my lawyer, you can contact him at *&^%$#"

Neither your pilot logs or the aircraft logbooks are open for a ramp check. You do not need to carry them nor give them to a government official. If a ramp check catches a pilot with an out of annual plane the pilot gave information that he should not have. The ONLY things to show are airworthiness cert, pilots license (does not expire) Government photo I.D. (passport, drivers license etc) and your medical. The medical could be out of date and that could catch you. They have no way to check your currency in relation to BFR, landings, IFR currency etc. Only you can screw you in these areas.

To void the warranty? what chicken $h*t! I see alternators drenched and dripping with oil that still work. No automotive source would void a warranty for oil. I have seen alternators that are big balls of grease still charging away at 20+ years and 200,000+ miles. This is one of the problems with aviation parts. High cost garbage with pitiful warranties. My $80 car battery has a 24 month free replacement and 60 month prorated warranty. My cheep @$$ $600 airplane battery is junk after 13 month and I am SOL. We accept crap from maintenance people and parts that we never would with our cars. Cars are SO much better designed, built and backed than anything aviation. I blame it on the FAA. BECAUSE of the certification rules that are somehow meant to protect us we are guaranteed shoddy antiquated and prohibitively expensive airplanes and parts.