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Quote: Skywarrior Interesting FlightAware plot. Apparently, that pilot needed a refresher on VFR altitudes... Nah....The FAA sometimes flips the odd/even rule for flights in central FL...why I don't know Happens to me in south GA also.

Two observations I have on this topic: 1. Get the flap settings, approach and landing speeds from your POH, if they don't work get with a Mooney savvy CFI and find out why. 2. Almost as bad as OWT landing rules, is the advise you get on any flying forum. Only only time I had touchdown issues is when I tried following some clever suggestion from Mooney talk. As educational as this thread is, look at how easy it is to confuse MPH with KtsPH. Those of us that don't highlight our make and model are, IMHO, doing a disservice to the rest of us. Please include it in your signature block or under your address on the left. That way you only have to do it once. Thanks.

It's much better looking than the photo, and is probably the best equipped Cadet in existence. Someone is going to get a fine plane.

I believe the factory only did two of them, and one has been repainted.

M Nick...is your plane in San Antonio, or did you send the interior pieces to Hector, and do the install back here in Ft. Lauderdale?

If that doesn't work, guys, when you're in Ft. Lauderdale Parker, perhaps we can coerce Jim into flying down, and we can fly up to join up with him midway. Although, I'm not certain that a J with bladders has that much range ;-)

I don't have them yet, but I believe the Lasar Sun Visors are easier to install, are less expensive, and look cleaner, than the Rosens on a Mooney. http://www.lasar.com/img/mods/mod-26-31_lg.jpg

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I too, have both XM WX and a 1000+ stormscope. The XM keeps you dry, the stormscope keeps you smooth. If you're going to the expense of installing one, get the newest, yellow tagged unit you can find. At least a 950 in my opinion. There are a lot of them on the used market because of people going to glass panels. Good luck!

I too, have both XM WX and a 1000+ stormscope. The XM keeps you dry, the stormscope keeps you smooth. If you're going to the expense of installing one, get the newest, yellow tagged unit you can find. At least a 950 in my opinion. There are a lot of them on the used market because of people going to glass panels. Good luck!

I missed the last fly-in and unfortunately will miss this one, but have a ball. the events are both a lot of fun and most informative. Gary Our last event was a huge success. We had at least 14 Mooneys and 2 Pipers bring 39 people to a restaurant that had seating for 40. It was a beautiful flying day, and everyone seemed to have a good time visiting, eating, and flying. The restaurant only had one cook and one waitress, so we had plenty of time to visit. Our next event will be this coming Saturday, March 12, at the Honoluana Island Grill at the Venice Airport (VNC). They have a $10 ramp fee that will be waived as long as we eat at the Honoluana, so keep you receipt to show the line personal if they try to charge you. To get through the gate to the restaurant, we have to call them, the phone number should be on a sign on the fence and an employee of the restaurant will come in let you in, unless one of us is holding the gate open. It's really no big deal. Future Events are all on the second Saturday of the month. March 12, Venice (VNC) Honoluana Island Grill April 9, New Smyrna (EVB) McCharacters Cafe & Sports Bar May 14, Winter Haven (GIF) Richards Cafe & Deli PLEASE NOTE, THIS IS A CHANGE FROM ALBERT WHITTED, THE PREVIOUSLY PUBLISHED MAY DESTINATION. WE HAD TO CHANGE TO AVOID A $16 PER AIRPLANE RAMP FEE. June 11, Ormond Beach (OMN) River Bend Golf Cafe All events start at 11:30. We appreciate it if you can E-mail Dave, DaveanRuth@aol.com, by Thursday night to let him know if you plan make it. He can then call the restaurant on Friday with a head count. Of course no one is obligated to come if something comes up at the last minute. Hope to see you soon, Dave and Ruth.....and Gary

PM me the week your down and maybe we can get together, and include Parker.

I'm impressed...thanks for the insight you F guys!

Ditto....I've had a 149NL/ec Super Duty 24v starter for two years, and it's lived up to it's name of Super Duty! Anyone need a used Prestolite 24v starter?

Splitting hairs but the Ovation does have a bit more room in the front and back. May be the new interiors. I want to be at the scale for any F claiming 1025 lbs of useful load. Maybe it's got thin paint, no cushoning and minimal avionics, but still doubtful IMHO. Anyway if your planned mission profiles turn out to be the real ones, it's an A-36 that best fit it, with a Mooney Ovation a possibility. The best answer to your question is "it depends". Good luck!

In your $150K price range, we're talking a solid M20J (201) or M20R (Ovation), and as I said either of them can handle 800# of stuff inside the cabin. The J (newer one's have at least 950 lbs. of usefull load) will only carry 30 to 35 gallons of fue legallyl, which will get you 200 nm easily, and 400 nm, but tightly. If you're going IFR the margin for 400 mn is unacceptable. Some of the confusion you're reading is, as you know, there are lots of Mooney models, with differing useful loads and fuel requirements, and most of us tend to talk about our model, even when it isn't highlighted. Ther real issue for you is if 25% of your flying is with 3 big friends, ANY Mooney may be tight and uncomfortable for them, pointing you to the Bonanza A-36. The Mooney Ovation will be a better option than the M20J, IMHO.

Most all Mooneys in your price range will serve performs the 3 missoins above very well, and at much lower operating costs than a Bonanza.

That's correct, Parker. It's an expensive non sequitur for the 201, even with the discount.

Good point. A single file Mooney caravan congo line over the smoke stack would be cool. Tight formation flying in our planes takes a certain mindset. I've taugh some friends, even an F-33 owner, who take to it like ducks to water. Other pilots, some with lots of hours, want no part of it. Usually the nervous, fidgety, distrustful type. No problem, but formation is good discipline and lots of fun. Of course it takes some good pre-flight briefing and a bit of loose formation training. The tower guys at my home drome get a kick out of formation take-offs and landings, as a change of pace. They always look better from the ground that they look in the cockpit.

Congrats, Mitch....quite impressive!

For about $10 get a neck cooler....just Google it. Crystals inside these wraps absorb water and keep your neck cool for hours, through evaporation. Will keep you comfortable until you get your big nose fan started, and get a little altitude, plus a lot less maintenance than a $30K A/C, and less trouble and much lighter than a portable ice chest with a tiny little fan. YMMV

kpc...do you mean to tell us you don't have A/C in that otherwise wonderfully tricked out Bravo???

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If Jodie gets wind of this, you're both in trouble ;-)

Good cautionary notes! Please keep your eyes outside and your heads on a swivel....not on your 3 GPS's, your JPI, your iPad or any other expensive toys. Mid air meetings are almost always fatal.