Anyone with recent Johnson Bar time. Near Boca Raton?

[Jim Peace]

Looking for someone with a current medical and recent older mooney time. Preferably with a CFI. 

Need to check my friend out in my m20c. He is a high time pilot but just does not have older mooney time. 

I cannot physically be there to do it myself.  I will be on the airlines all day if you call.  Plane is at BCT.

you will have to talk to my insurance company first  

Jim

818-522-3597

[Lrn2Fly]

Jim

I'm a CFI in The Tampa area.  I have an E model with the manual gear and have given plenty of transition training to pilots heading into Mooney's for many years.

941-209-2322 cell

[kerry]

Sorry for changing the subject.  I was curious if the insurance company distinguished time between m20A-J models.

[Raptor05121]

43 minutes ago, kerry said:

Sorry for changing the subject.  I was curious if the insurance company distinguished time between m20A-J models.

Mine doesnt. Even all the way up to TN is the same as -A time.

[rbridges]

That's interesting to know. 

[Jim Peace]

I don't think they do. But I want a pilot who is familiar with the best gear system ever developed. 

Having dinner at F street station. 

Trivia question if anyone knows where that is. 

[mike_elliott]

I am surprised an insurance company would add a pilot as additional insured without a checkout by a qualified CFI. Typically, the do want make and model hours, not just make. Now if you are just concerned about your high time pilot meeting the open pilot warranty, that is a different and essentially a very exposed position for the pilot who meets the open pilot requirement

If you just want to see if he can fly your Mooney, that is still different, and anyone who "volunteers" to check him out should do their do diligence on liability and insurance exposure.

[DonMuncy]

To follow up on Mike's comments. If you fly someone else's plane as an "open pilot", and if you should damage it, it is possible you could be liable for the damages. The owner would be covered, but the insurance may pay him and come after you for reimbursement (subrogation). If you own and insure a plane as well, your own insurance could protect you, but it is something you would want to know.

[Jim Peace]

The only people who usually fly my plane are name insured on my policy.  I wonder if this makes it so they will not be sought after by the insurance company if something happens.

 

[mike_elliott]

1 hour ago, Jim Peace said:

 I wonder if this makes it so they will not be sought after by the insurance company if something happens.

yes. If they were not named, the insurance company would pay the claim provided they met the open pilot warranty, but would then subrogate ALL of their losses against the pilot. Being named insured with a waiver of subrogation will mitigate this hedge.

[DonMuncy]

11 minutes ago, mike_elliott said:

yes. If they were not named, the insurance company would pay the claim provided they met the open pilot warranty, but would then subrogate ALL of their losses against the pilot. Being named insured with a waiver of subrogation will mitigate this hedge.

Yes, if you are a named insured, the insurance can not subrogate against their own insured.