Wistarmo Posted May 3, 2010 Report Share Posted May 3, 2010 I had a leather interior and new glass installed in my 1993 Mooney M20J MSE at a shop that will remain nameless for now until I see how things ultimately work out. Is it reasonable to expect that with a very expensive ($20,000) project like this that new foam would have been installed, or is it standard to simply reuse the old foam? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSMooniac Posted May 3, 2010 Report Share Posted May 3, 2010 If you're paying that much I would expect new memory foam in different densities (like Oregon Aero stuff) and seat covers made from the finest baby seal hides that money can buy. I think the Mooney factory would even do a new interior with the very nice composite side panels for similar money in addition to new foam and leather. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTK Posted May 3, 2010 Report Share Posted May 3, 2010 20K ????!!!!???? Are you out of your mind??!! I did mine: 4 seats all FAA certified leather with new memory foam for $1650 !!! I know glass foesn't cost 18K!! Seriously man ! Are you sure?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amelia Posted May 3, 2010 Report Share Posted May 3, 2010 Oh, dear! That IS quite a price. I hope it is just beautiful, and that you're thrilled with the job. I know I am, every time I open the door and the smell of new top-quality leather wafts out. I'm so pleased with the newly refurbished seats- I feel at least 3" taller as a result, and the Oregon Aero booster seat has been retired to the back. THAT's what you should have gotten for your investment... at the VERY least, I should think. Surely the interior shop MEANT to replace the old foam, and surely they're honorable enough to offer to re-do properly it at no additional charge, even covering your costs to return the seats to them. That just seems a most peculiar place to cut corners. Foam's just not that expensive in the overall scheme of things. If they won't, you'd be justified in being really mad. The web is a fine place to tell other people what you think-- it's got to be hard on business when customers find they've been cheated, and spread the word. As for MY big internet mouth, I hope Hector's phone at AeroComfort, Inc in San Antonio is ringing off the hook with potential customers who insist on a first-class job with a very fast turnaround. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProprAire Posted May 3, 2010 Report Share Posted May 3, 2010 I agree with Allsmiles. I had my seats refurbed in my 1977 M20J for $1650 back in '06. A Minot, ND upholstery shop replaced the gaudy red leather seats with up-to-date top grain parchment colored leather over fresh foam. It's holding up exceedingly well after four years. I think you should shop around for a better deal on the glass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTK Posted May 4, 2010 Report Share Posted May 4, 2010 When I get around to it I'll post some photos of my interior. New leather outsourced and new carpet and refinished plastics done by yours truly. Every time I approach my airplane and open the door I feel so proud!! If anyone is interested in refinishing plastics I'll tell you what I did. It's better than brand new and cost very little. You have to not be scared to put in some elbow grease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgePerry Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 Quote: Wistarmo I had a leather interior and new glass installed in my 1993 Mooney M20J MSE at a shop that will remain nameless for now until I see how things ultimately work out. Is it reasonable to expect that with a very expensive ($20,000) project like this that new foam would have been installed, or is it standard to simply reuse the old foam? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 Methinks Wistarmo regrets this post already. I have to admit that $20K sounds a bit pricey but I have never looked at replacing all the glass so I don't have a clue on those costs. I have a little research on having the interior done soup to nuts and costs ranged from $7K to $10K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTK Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 I still can't believe you paid 20K $ for leather seats and glass. Are you sure you didn't have an engine overhaul? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
140pilot Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 You could have bought my Cessna 140 and still had enough left over to do the seats and windows. And I thought I got hammered when I paid 2.5k to do my 20C back in the late 90's. I feel better now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HootaCaroota Posted May 24, 2010 Report Share Posted May 24, 2010 Ehscott, Without pricing the windows, all new windows and an all new interior should be more like $13 or $14K. The windows are labor intensive so the cost will be greatly affected by the shop's hourly rate. We're probably the only shop to post our prices for interiors online: http://lcaero.com/MooneyInteriors.html. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgePerry Posted May 24, 2010 Report Share Posted May 24, 2010 Quote: HootaCaroota Without pricing the windows, all new windows and an all new interior should be more like $13 or $14K. The windows are labor intensive so the cost will be greatly affected by the shop's hourly rate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusoam Posted May 24, 2010 Report Share Posted May 24, 2010 George, Does your price for side windows include the removal of the vertical piece? or was that additional to the price? -a- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtCraft Posted May 25, 2010 Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 Hello: To be available to help you out I need to ask you does this price included : Head liner, seats, re-foam seats, side panels, window frame re-covered, carpet, seat belts, repaint seats frames and paint any other piece to m match the new interior color the glass and installation labor??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtCraft Posted May 25, 2010 Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 If the $ 20,000.00 included everything it’s a good deal but if not, you need to ask them to break it down the window installation and price by themselves that should be about $ 4,200.00 - $ 4,500.00. For the interior it should be $ 12,000.00 -$ 15,000.00 depend on the quality of the leather. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgePerry Posted May 25, 2010 Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 Quote: carusoam George, Does your price for side windows include the removal of the vertical piece? or was that additional to the price? -a- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wistarmo Posted May 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 To all, The project is not yet completed; the aircraft is at the facility for a third time to correct problems. In terms of the price breakdown, the interior was $10,160 (including tax) for a new leather interior, Royalite repairs, and carpet. Replacement of the windshield and side windows was $8380 (including tax) which included $981 for repainting. A new baggage door seal was $505 (including tax). I appreciate everyone's interest and input and will update everyone when it is finished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
231Pilot Posted May 30, 2010 Report Share Posted May 30, 2010 George, that is a beautiful result! Is the seat leather perforated? How cool are the leather seats in the summer compared to the Mooney cloth seats? You have a really gorgeous aircraft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgePerry Posted May 30, 2010 Report Share Posted May 30, 2010 Quote: 201Pilot George, that is a beautiful result! Is the seat leather perforated? How cool are the leather seats in the summer compared to the Mooney cloth seats? You have a really gorgeous aircraft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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