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Quote: Parker_Woodruff Please tell me where you got that information. I highly doubt Mooney is going to publish something in their POH under Normal Procedures that will give someone The worst possible performance just to prove something about their performance charts. See my post at the top of this page. Normal procedures is about flying the airplane for best performance, not interpreting performance charts

Patrick had a 1995 M20J 201 MSE. The point about the landing gear down until clear of obstacles just shows that you're supposed to be able to clear the obtacle with gear up or down so retracting it shouldn't be the deal breaker in making it out in that distance. By how much you'll clear the obstacle is a whole other story though. This presumes stock plane and absolutely perfect piloting with the speed on the exact number.

If it's heavily contaminated it gets dumped. The rest of the time, why not pour it back through the Gats har screen?

Flew to Cape May for the NJ Mooney Pilots Toys for Kids fly in! It was fun and got to meet some great people but we really missed having Patrick there so it's tough. I'll have a complete report and video of the event for you guys in a few days.

http://fios1news.com/longisland/node/12712 http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Long-Island-SUNY-Students-Killed-Pennsylvania-Plane-Crash-Farmingdale-Patrick-Sheridan-Casey-Falconer-151012175.html http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/05/11/ntsb-investigating-small-plane-crash-that-killed-2-suny-farmingdale-students/ http://www.liherald.com/longbeach/stories/Long-Beach-man-killed-in-plane-crash,40820 http://www.kathrynsreport.com/2012/05/plane-crash-victims-were-aviation.html

I am just at a loss for words. The first time I met Patrick was when we moved our fly-in to Lancaster just so there would be a TV at the restaurant cause Patrick would not miss the Giants game. Another time we had a fly-in at South Jersey Regional and I flew to Republic to pick him up cause his plane was out for service. We flew together in my plane there and back. Another time he invited me out to take a ride in his after it was just freshly painted. We flew over Long Island Sound to get dinner at Oxford. He was just going to use the auto pilot anyway so instead he let me fly his bird. He was such a nice guy. I just can't believe we won't be seeing him for another NJ Mooney Fly in!

Quote: Cris Also there will be 100 LL fuel available at something under $6/gal. So ignore my prvious post. It was delivered over the weekend.

Quote: mrjones30 The Flight Instructor I went up with was average at best because a lot of the questions I asked about flying he answered them with very little detail or he just flat out said: "I don't know" He has been flying for over 10 years!.

Just a reminder about our flier for the event. The full resolution PDF version can be downloaded here. Otherwise, I attached a jpg version as an attachment below. I really hope to see everyone there.

Yesterday I noticed EGT on one cylinder way above the rest while idling on the ground. During run up and in flight they would even out. Did an EGT mag check and all was fine. But idling cylinders 1-3 were around 1020 while #4 was going to 1190. Bad probe? Uneven cooling? Problem?

Quote: Bnicolette I guess I'm really gonna have to give this LOP a solid try. I have played with it before and know my plane will run there with no issues, but never paid much attention to the speed loss. Mike says he loses 10 kts and Byron, you say 5 kts.. Which one is typical and what should I expect? Thanks all.

Our airplanes are our children. They cost a fortune, don't always behave as desired, but are super rewarding at the end of it all.

My numbers concur with Byron's. If I really feel like wasting money, I can get 10kts more for 100ROP but it's like pouring money on a camp fire. 150ktas seems like the real world number to me and so I plan it. When I'm ballparking trips, I use 140 cause there's bound to be some wind somewhere. It really hurts when I gotta go high power to get 140kts cause of the wind though!

M20J Drivers, what speed do you flight plan for? How accurate do you find those to be? Do you find yourself arriving on time with those numbers? Is it just me or does it seem that some people are using wildly optimistic speeds in discussions on this forum?

Totally awesome!

Quote: jetdriven This was 1999. The Cherokee was not part of the deal, he flew it home and I the M20E in formation. I noted at the first fuel stop he took 30 gallons and I took 18. $39,500 bought a pretty good M20E then. Unfortunately, this one turned out to be a POS. 3 months after he bought it, a rod liberated itself from the crankshaft and windowed the case.

Quote: jetdriven When a friend of mine bought a 1966 M20E, we showed up in a Cherokee 180 he owned and a briefcase with 38,500 in cash. Flew it away right then. No kidding.

Are you required to have a current sectional onboard?

Quote: Bnicolette No, I guess you certainly don't have to use an "official" source, but certainly are required to know what the wx is doing? I think Doc was just trying to say that if you use an official source that it would be able to be proved that you indeed checked the weather. Sec. 91.103 — Preflight action. Each pilot in command shall, before beginning a flight, become familiar with all available information concerning that flight. This information must include— (a) For a flight under IFR or a flight not in the vicinity of an airport, weather reports and forecasts, fuel requirements, alternatives available if the planned flight cannot be completed, and any known traffic delays of which the pilot in command has been advised by ATC;

Brett, I'm serious. I'm not saying it's a good idea. But the regs don't require it. Especially not in any "official" sort of form that is being discussed here. Show me what regulation requires you to get a weather briefing from WXBRIEF, DUAT, DUATS?

Who says you're even required to get a weather briefing!?

Quote: WardHolbrook Because you're landing at an uncontrolled airport underlying class B airspace and ATC (for lack of a better term) demands that you cancel as soon as you can make it visually?

Quote: WardHolbrook Why would you cancel IFR while you're on approach in Class B airspace? One of the expectations that ATC has in IFR operations is that everyone will be predictable. What would possibly gained?

Quote: txbyker N9154X, I am not quite a year old IFR pilot. On one of my first IFR trips coming home last year in VMC conditions I was sent into Class B at a high altitude up there with descending commercial jets. Like a rookie I asked ATC if I was "cleared into class B?" and he replied very puzzled and said you are on an IFR flight plan and you are always cleared into class B under IFR and there is no need to ask. I am not a CFI.

Byron, if you could get away with flying RNAV/Direct with your VFR GPS, it would make everyone else who paid $10K+ look dumb for getting certified equipment. That's why it's not gonna happen any time soon.