N9201A

Looking awesome, Rocky Mountain formators! Flying, fun and fellowship is what it’s all about!

You’re always welcome Junkman! We’ve advanced our ADM and risk management quite a bit in the last few years.

They had a QRC code to permit you to vote on your airframe at OSH. Realistically brands P and C crush us in numbers so they'll be first targets as total addressable market is much greater and they are still being produced. I have also been watching this and at 380 lbs and up to 230HP this is a very viable package that solves a lot of problems for many people. Now to get them certified and in production! I wish them all the best; were they doing it, I would convert my J to an experimental. It will perform better than an IO360, does away with 100LL, a longer TBO will almost certainly result, and diesels are much more reliable. Sadly, the rep I spoke to said they are focusing on OEMs.

Was a partner in a small firm and flew myself all the time, when we merged into a larger one it was “no small aircraft.” I just submitted mileage and never heard a peep. I did NOT tell anyone anything or have some “side deal” with someone who could be replaced or overruled anyway or deny it, and definitely do not lie about it. As long as you get there on your own, they owe you the mileage as you got there somehow. I would not lie about it though for sure. It was “don’t ask, don’t tell.”

Yes Mike, many new owners want to knock out the insurance-required 5 or 10 hours on the “new to me” cross-country ferry bringing the new airplane home. This works against actually learning how to fly your new bird and handle cross-wind, bounced landings, and other scenarios. Personally, I always try to incorporate a cabin door unlatch on every checkout I do, as it’s something likely to happen to a new Mooney owner at some point in their pleasure flying. I want them to experience it with a CFI in the right seat. As others have noted, it’s a non-event. And knowing your aircraft’s “gaits” (power+pitch=performance) helps alleviate whatever weird indications one may get. Personally I’ve never seen a 10-KT diff in IAS from a cabin door — but l would be working with my tech to troubleshoot if I did. This is sad, and avoidable. Let’s work to prevent future incidents.

Hi! I’m based in VNY, will be happy to pick up whatever you’ve got. Thanks! reach me anytime @n9201a@gmail.com Larry Brennan Mooney CFI-IA Mooney Caravan Lead 2017 201 N9201A (since 1998)

He’s already proven he’s a liar…

Thank you for sharing this, seems prudent to check with the manufacturer before buying used avionics. Hope you can recover your $ from the seller, as the emails imply someone who had the unit before you knew it was not serviceable/airworthy.

Although this may be true with boats, I can’t think of an airplane owner l know who was actually happy to part with their bird. Glad you’re replacing it with another terrific machine, and staying flying!

I apologize if I have offended you, my comment was an (apparently) unsuccessful attempt to be witty. Numerous people who admit they know nothing about formation flying nevertheless decide they can attack the integrity of pilots and passengers who escaped a very grave situation and an organization composed of many fine volunteers who devote countless hours every year promoting safety and continually improving processes and procedures so that many people here can enjoy a common experience. So getting one's hackles up is unsurprising, but if I offended you, that was certainly not my intent. Whether you care or not, the "lesson learned" are public and are still available to you -- and anyone else who cares to invest the time to understand them.

In fact an immediate benefit of form flying is getting lots of great pics of your bird. But one doesn’t have to fly with the Caravan to OSH to try form flying. In fact, most people who regularly fly form locally do not get to the OSH flight. A clinic is just one way to try it. Find some qualified formators (Caravan, B2Osh, credentialed FFI, FAST, etc.) near you and work out a flight with them. PM me or look on the Caravan site for resources, or contact a leader of one of the organizations in your area. It’s a lot of fun and addictive. The form community is welcoming and offers robust camaraderie as well. And it’s essential for aerial photography, as you point out.

Sorry, was looking for reasoned discourse. Wrong room, sorry to have troubled you.

Perhaps I am not being clear. All of my remarks refer to the actual incident, not "talking about" the incident. Everyone you cited - those in the flight, at OSH, or like you, valued MooneySpace readers -- don't have any information about the incident except what has been posted/published or what they could see *after* the incident (the aircraft) or learn second-hand. Now, if your issue is "talking about" the incident, or "how the event was handled at the time (OSH?), it WASN'T "handled at the time." Responsible organizations (like the NTSB and, in this case, the Caravan) investigate and discover facts, analyze them, and then act. That is exactly what happened here. While some may have disagreed with that approach, it has been vindicated. This incident does not involve something where there was a "hack" or "fix" to a technical issue on an aircraft that could be shared. And the very public information that was and is being shared, and will also continue to be shared, you need only read the website, come to a clinic, or come to a presentation to learn. That includes information directly from incident witnesses and participants, not second hand speculation or scuttlebutt. The Caravan is a volunteer, charitable organization without shareholders or paid membership. It is open to all and completely transparent to its participants. Those pilots, many of whom are MooneySpacers, do not seem to be on MooneySpace complaining that they have not been given information and are entitled to it here, now, when they want it. That no one has personally explained to you everything that was learned is a disappointment with which you will have to live, just like the Caravan will apparently have to bear the burden of your disapproval.

You still don’t know how this was “handled.” Nor has any interest in learning been demonstrated. Your issue seems to be that no one has shared with *you*. That perhaps your opinion didn’t factor into decision-making doesn’t make for bad decision making, whatever you may think.