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I just had the beautiful Jaeger interior system - it looks good and give more room - his interiors STC system. And I had the SCS interiors do the upholstery in a beautiful "umber" leather with perforated back holes. And I had them make the bottom cushion a little bit longer to accommodate my longer legs.

My son is 15. Maybe I should change his name to...N6P? I have a new n-number reserved for my April 24 date with the paint shop. $10 number that is.

N number scalping?!!! Geesh

We need a not like button on this forum. seriously weren't we just talking about corrosion? If it was just a joke or your brand of politics I wasn't in the mood.

I can't remember for sure, but I thought that wing was stripped? I was looking at it about a year ago.

Hi gsxrpilot, I believe that was the wing I was close to buying about a year ago, for essentially the same reason. It looked to me like a superb wing from the many pictures I saw and discussions with Paul. The only reason I didn't go that wing is it didn't fit well to my 1981 and was expensive given many extra changes needed due to landing gear difference but most notably since I have tks and it did not so that was another major expense to modify it - I believe in your case it would be just a standard swap since the year matches - anyway just a little feedback - the wing seemed good to me.

Related thing to mention - if you ever do have your engine quite in flight near a runway - then if you can't make the runway (without heroic maneuvers that will cause a stall and/or spin) then most airports have a decent grassy area around it and touching down somewhere within the fence is likely to be a much better than in the trees - or a house - or stall/spin option.

Wohoo!!!

I think you are mostly completely right Andrew. Except you forgot that some people today wear bell bottom pants, because they are retro and to be different from all the other people who are wearing the latest and greatest. So I repeat, I am sort of ennamered by my amazing mechanical instruments that are so retro now, such amazing mechanical devices like a Swiss watch but get the job done, they look cool to me, very cool, and so rube-goldberg. So someday I will go glass, but it will take something fantastic, new, and amazing price to dislodge me from what I am currently enjoying. ...As I said, I wear a mechanical watch, but it is one of those neat Citizen mechanical watches, that has a photoelectric face that coverts light to enough energy to run it ... forever, and it has lots of dials (gadgets) and the body is titanum - my favorite lightweight metal. (I wish my mooney were all titanium!!!!..my several bicycles are). Oh and the other watch I have and used to wear all the time but now only sometimes, IS a Switch watch, auto-winder all mechanial, with a stainless body and a glass back, made by Zenith.

Better call it panel-porn.

Here's what it looks like inside N10933. You can't see very well the EDM830 right about the lower attitude indicator which is an electric backup gyro. There is also an electric backup vacuum for the vacuum gyro. So there is a decent bit of redundancy. You see a GNS430W which I would not purchase at this point but it is already in there. If I were to buy a new gps at this stage it would be a GTN650 but I am not replacing my working 430w. And that is a Garmin Aera 510 that serves nicely as a backup gps with its own internal battery and also it is wired for cross fill and voice annunciation. The iPad is a poor mans EFB and works very well and I have a GDL39D. And that also drives the SVT source on the iphone you see there as a third source of attitude - it would by quite a bad inop day if the gyro, the backup electric gyro and the backup electric gyro are all inop, but there it is - actually I usually have that mini screen showing ADSB traffic full time when in normal flight - you can't see in the picture I have a Trig31 ADSB out transponder. ANd you see the aoa which by the way is wired for voice annunciation "getting slow". So there you have it - quite a functional partly new partly old school, partly "hand held" panel with a good bit of redundancy. If and when a Dynon or Garmin full fledged competitor (aka like the G3X or the better Dynons) were to come along I would likely take a leap. Also that new digital autopilot is very interesting - who was making the STC again? Simply for the envelope protection which has got to be worth its weight in gold. Otherwise I have a very good KFC200. Meanwhile - its all good stuff. So I would need to be motivated to be really excited that something expensive and new is either very exciting and new, or I need it. And I feel very functional with what I have. Decision making needs to come to play too - two days ago coming home from Princeton....my home airport was reporting just 20 feet above minimums. So I didn't even try - I diverted to Massena 30 minutes drive and 6 min flight away - which has an ILS plus the conditions where higher anyway because it is slightly lower terrain. ..and today I get to go over there this afternoon and fetch it. :-)

You are right, but....as a consumer, I want to be really excited when I put down 15-25k for an elective expense like this.

That's not my problem...it's getting long in the tooth to be excited at 10k. So no sale to me.

2 or 3 years ago I would have most likely bought an aspen at near half price if it were. But now I think the promise of a part 23 rewrite allowing more modern avionics and at cheaper prices "soon" is freezing the current market for current 10 year old technology certified equipment. The idea of a 25k ten year old g500 is not appealing. For 25k I want a screen and processor that is competitive technology to my iphone. For 3k yeah maybe I would be happy with vga. Sort of. Meanwhile - I have steam guage. But I sort of think these rube-goldberg swiss-watch grade mechanical instruments are just plane neat. I wear an analogue watch.

https://www.faa.gov/aircraft/air_cert/

So the concept of a certified airplane would no longer exist and might as well all go experimental.

Apparently that was my plan before painting - only I didn't realize it ahead of time that it was my plan!

Wow

So this guy passed out in flight - and then woke up still alive on the ground?!!!

Oh awful. John King tells a story of an off field landing where he had a small tool chest sitting on the hat rack of his airplane, and when they stopped (abruptly) it flew forward and hit Martha King on the head, as a glancing blow leaving here with only a minor head trauma, from the luck of not having been a more square blow.

It was painful! Doh.... For now on - I too will be doing a weber/airmods rotation for my annuals. Having flown down here yesterday, popping up through clouds, running my tks (just in case), sitting on my lovely new leather interior, I was feeling quite fine. On flight aware. Only the repaint is waiting now - due to start on April 24.

:-) You get out to 39N and check out my new interior? Paint is postponed until April 24 to fit that shop's schedule. Which is fine with me - I don't mind flying a scruffy airplane for a few months.

Hi ALL - so following this current thread and my recalling that I too just went through a complete spar cap repair - at least two different mooneyspacers contacted me for more information - which I will be happy to correspond to them directly by PM, but I decided to repost a very detailed report I made about a month ago, describing my experience, and then a phoenix is rising thread about a better airplane on the other side. For the reader's digest version - in Anthony-bullet-style: -intergranular corrosion is different from surface corrosion - once started and even if it seems relatively mild, it will propagate inward and cannot be stopped. Replacing the part becomes the only option. -such a corrosion attack can happen in a relatively short time in a relatively small place in an otherwise fine plane. -spar cap under the fuel sealant is a common scenario. -there is a specific standard of how deep the corrosion is allowed to be and still be brushed out rather than replace the part -I had my spar cap replaced at airmods in new jersey. They KNOW what they are doing and have done this specific job on Mooneys several times before. They did a fantastic job on my airplane. It was expensive and most of the expense was labor - I think the part - the spar cap was $500. They are a no nonsense and very reasonable shop and I think they did me right both in charging hours and in choosing the most efficient repair method possible. It takes several hundred hours to do. -they did not remove the wing, but they separate the wing from the plane and displace it just a few inches. They remove lots and lots of rives and work the whole spar cap out and then jimmy in a new spar cap. Then apply lots and lots of rivets. Structural plus skin rivets. -this method saves the trouble of removing control rods, fuel lines, electronic lines, and in my case, the tks plumbing. -the alternatives were remove the wing entirely, or maybe even replace the wing. Replace the wing might be competitive if you find a good deal on a good wing and it fits exactly. In my case, there were no tks ready m20k wings not from the later series (landing gear and other details changed in what 1984? in the m20k line). That would have greatly increased the cost. -before proceeding with an expensive corrosion repair, consider getting the whole airplane re-inspected as if a pre-buy because wisdom says that if there is some corrosion, maybe there is more. In my case, it turned out to be yes, mostly just a single attack and the rest of the airplane structures, and tubular pieces too, came out fine. -I think the repair itself took about 4 months in queue waiting my turn on the shop floor with the right mechanics (yea - if I had only planned ahead..... eh?) and about 4 months in process of repair. -I went through some soul searching before proceeding to decide if I want to keep this plane or get something else. Every time I looked at something else, I kept coming back to I like this one. -I am in starbucks in Princeton NJ (Hi Anthony!) today, flew down yesterday for business - at 13,000 ft (low traffic zone) at >200kts the whole way.... and I go home tomorrow. lifestyles of the rich and famous. Gotta get back to work now...

No one is home in anti-ice word this afternoon. I will try Monday. Seems like one of those typical scenes in the wonderful life styles of the rich and famous world of aircraft ownership: there I am in the hangar - its 5F inside the hangar till in the am and 15F maybe outside but the hangar but the hangar holds the evening chill a bit longer. And I am trying to do a few little tasks before getting into work - one of which is top off the tks - but the cap won't open. SO I need to take off my gloves for a try like that - but now my hands are getting cold, and knuckles getting knocked around in frigid cold metal and hoping that flimsy little door won't break off.