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The DSI.

And what happens after 80?

Are you still flying?

I read that insurance gets much more difficult after a certain age - can someone state a number? How old is that specifically when things get harder to find insurance.

We are all nuts indeed. Certainly I am nuts. My engine is in overhaul right now.

Im having it replaced with a nuclear powered rocket engine so I can go 95% the speed of light. I miss my bird... Engine should come back - eventually - I had a thread on it but it will be a nice RAM engine now.

One thing they are saying in the media at least, we shall see what the real scoop is in time, is that there were two controllers in a tower that is meant to be staffed for four controllers. That seems as if it is a huge contributing factor.

Oh well - so it turns out I am not a lawyer - and happy to not be one. Ok - as far as taking out drones - how about a trained pet eagle?

Sounds fine to me.

So we agree. That law that I cited has sway in this case. In the United States, the 1946 Supreme Court decision United States v. Causby overturned the common law doctrine that private property rights extend indefinitely upwards, instead ruling that they end 300 feet above the highest terrain (including buildings), the lower limit of the "public highway" defined by Congress in the Air Commerce Act of 1926. Whether we agree or not that is the law. My thought is, why is this law not nullifying this law suit immediately?

Wasnt there a law in the 1920s or something that cleared air space above a private property as not owned by the owner of the terra firma property - which without it - it would have been impossible to have air travel? That law seems relevant here.

Victor was on my short list. There are some shops that I think provide a better engine standard than factory.

Yes. And btw my engine will have superior cylinders which they say (and I hear from others) have much better valves out of the box than continental.

Penn Yan has been a fantastic and honorable company to work with. I did do an overhaul with them many years ago on my Lycoming IO360 from my then Diamond DA40. It ran like a top. And I only have an even higher opinion of them now. All I know is my zero time Continental engine was not so terrific once disassembled than I would expect for a top dollar service, so I consider "zero time" a parlor trick only available by regulatory slight of hand and not worth it.

I called around including to RAM aircraft which had been one of the few top shops I had gotten quotes from back in April and was my near finalist. I went with Penn Yan at that stage because of their equally excellent reputation, slightly better quote and also the fact that they are just 3.5 hours drive from my house in case I had the urge to check in on them plus similarly close to Weber the R&R shop. Well I remember that RAM had quoted me also an overhaul exchange price with reasonable penalties if the camshaft and or case had problems. I called them and explained my situation and they said they do have all the necessary parts in stock and they would honor the original concept of overhaul exchange. TSIO520NB's are a bread and butter engine for that shop, so they keep stock. And I called Penn Yan and they were so generous in their interest in seeing me land well and they understood well why I was not excited to go with an AirPower new or rebuilt zero time engine. So I signed to RAM and my engine will ship to them and this project will now become a RAM engine. And just as important, this engine will be spec'ed as I had wanted it in the first place again from a different excellent shop. And of course as is only fair I will pay Penn Yan for their time and labor I am in to it so far. I was already underwhelmed by the concept of a black box continental zero time engine which is just a paper work trick to call it zero time but it is only an overhauled engine from the continental shop with unknown parts. I was more so worried abotu their cylinder quality. Well now I know ... that zero time engine I was sporting had a camshaft put into it that was literally on its last overhaul legs since it had been ground down to minimum spec at that last overhaul and was now too narrow to consider grounding down further. So I am even less impressed by continental zero time engines than the already low opinion I had.

Hi Gee Bee - what's the suggestion with those companies? Are you suggesting they might have an overhaul exchange/out right purchase available?

Byron so what is your suggestion for lifters? And ok - where I am now - what would you recommend as my course. If you dont want to speak freely pm me?

Where did you find that? Can you link me? I am still confused - if a new crankshaft is $10k, and I saw on another website that a new case is $14k (no core needed), and surely there is good serviceable stuff out there, how can it be that at this stage it is more cost effective to go with a new engine? Never mind its not what I want.

By the way - why would a used case free of cracks be more likely trouble free than new?

What about his sneakers? If he hadnt had a pair of good footwear I bet he wouldnt have gone to the airport that day. Not to mention his toothbrush.

I wasnt about to do a top on an off the shelf Continental engine. I was just asking if that was what he had been suggesting. I will be talking to Penn Yan tomorrow. I may well continue with the Penn Yan overhaul even if it is becoming cost ineffective compared to continental, since I am less excited by a Conty plain vanilla engine based on quality control and details. I am not sure yet. I will also call a few top engine companies to see if they have something for outright purchase available soon. My shopping conditions are dramatically different at this stage vs when I was shopping in April and the issue was to overhaul what I would send them. I am having a hard time imagining that a serviceable case and serviceable crankshaft cant be obtained and put into Penn Yan's hands for something very competitive with buy an engine outright from continental. Someone on here suggested they saw my crankshaft runs $10k new. And there must be some out there used. And how much is a case? The continental engine reman zero time is 30k more than the Penn Yan overhaul I originally priced, so at this stage anything less than 30k increment for a Penn yan build to continue with be cheaper and more importantly, a better engine in my book. The entry in the book that says zero time is worth very little to me since I wasnt planning on selling my airplane.

So that would involve taking shipment of the engine, then immediately removing the cylinders probably before the engine is even installed and doing a top?

I tried really hard to get a quote from powermasters - I have heard such good things about their quality and their prices too by rumor. I called probably a dozen and a half times and emailed many times, and I got Bill on the phone 3 times over 6 months and each time he is super friendly and he promised a quote but I never did get one. So eventually I gave up. That also scared me to send an engine to a place on how long it would take if I couldnt get a quote. I would still consider them if I ever got an explicit quote and also a guess at timeline. I don't mean to diminish the quality of their work. I am probably out of luck at this stage no matter what with them anyway arent I? Penn Yan's price was competitive with several shops I asked near the bottom, and close enough to bottom that with their good reputation and proximity to the R&R shop well that's the way I went. Can you be more explicit - what did you mean by baked into the factory engine price? I presume you mean it has zero core value now that it is disassembled as far as factory is involved? I will also call RAM on Monday since they were one of the shops I quoted back in April - they were offering core exchange so I presume that means they are a possible source for outright purchase to consider something besides factory, since I bet they are big enough they have all the parts to build up. I do like they use the RAM cam (obviously) and superior cylinders - so that would also get me closer to the outcome I was hoping for. Do you think powermaster would do an outright purchase - if they wont take any of my core? Or would repair my core in its crappy state it is?

Hi Dan, Im sorry - I was being cranky (double entendre huh since my crankshaft is making me cranky), and I didnt mean to speak poorly of yours or anyone else's decision or need to make a decision to go continental all the way - which I chance at this stage I will do exactly that. When did you get a new engine? What does Seth Record do?

Well thanks for looking that up for me. It seems clear as day that I am screwed... The most depressing part isnt that this will cost a lot more - even if yes I am not excited about that - its that I will end up with a crappy Continental engine instead of the one I thought I had ordered which was a quality overhaul from a quality shop with several aftermarket items to my specification including better cylinders, better camshaft, better spark (electronic ignition) and better injectors. So I will pay more money for a sigicantly inferior product. has at least - the quality of continental valves gotten a bit better than the low quality control of a few years ago?