John Pleisse

The website won't let me hit the "Like" bottom any more, so here ya go. I have different theories on European social democracies, but I'll let that notion morph into another discussion at another time.

Well if they had, they would still be here....bigger than ever. There ain't much difference between a bail out or bankruptcy. They both are an escape. The difference with the GM bail out was, it saved the thousands of jobs of cascading vendors and subcontractors that supported GM. Bankruptcy would have also created austerity measures the UAW would have had to conform to. So the bail out saved voting interests in the entire Great Lakes rim. Obama a bad dude four doing it? Sure. But what's good for the goose. Republicans did it with Chrysler. Point being, these were union buy outs and protections, not the best way to save an auto maker. Remember those dumb Chevy Volt commercials from 2009 and that doofy 30-something LA type guy (a real tool) saying...."Hey...I love my Volt!! It's just a cooooool car". Whatever.

Well it wasn't 49 million before 2008. What bugs me about what's going on now is, basically....in a nut shell, our Treasury buys and sells large bonds interests on Wall Street. The money goes to and from the Fed and the large fund managers and completely bypasses the American people. That bar tab Andy? We're all gonna have to pay it (metaphor...we as a nation when the debt needs to be paid). Liberal scholars say we are good....all the way up to 35 trillion. I am not so sure.

Republican Policy is famously simple, which is why it frustrates liberals. You view American success through the prism of public policy and omit our very foundations of success. You view fairness and political purpose only through a shit stream of law, after law, after law, topped off with a pile of government regulation and endless taxation. In affect, you measure the opposite party by your own ideals. Relaxed taxation and regulation have fostered our greatest economic expansions in history. Like all good things, they aren't forever and we return to earth. This is popular fodder for democratic antagonism. The recession of 1991, the crash 2008, etc. But often ignored in these arguments, are the decade long runs of success we enjoyed in between, due in large part to sound physical policy. But to indulge you: Reagan Tax Act of 1981 (you remember 17% interest rates in 1978, right)? SS Amendment of 1985 Balanced Budget Act of 1985 1996 Fed Welfare Reform Act Bush Tax Cuts 2001 Republican Success Civil Rights Acts of 1957 and 1964 (you were short a few dems...mostly southern) First woman appointed to the Supreme Court First African American to head The Joint Chiefs The First African American Secretary of State The First Hispanic Attorney General The demise of our middle class was a confluence of two major historical events. NAFTA, which forever changed the place and purpose of the American worker and manufacturing sector. It did everything it was not supposed to do. Ruined auto making (Ford notwithstanding), unions and forever changed the future of trade barriers. Second, was the advent of the computer microchip. This was the last nail in the coffin of the American working class, leading the way to manufacturing automation, quality control and complex automation systems. Popular consensus is Bill Clinton had it right. He did because the Republican controlled Congress rivaled his very popularity. He advanced anti-trust litigation against Microsoft. Clinton was the luckiest man alive........an entire country of wealth and an IRS tripping and falling over revenue from hundreds of thousands of the new rich, the "Dot-Com millionaires". Clinton only presided over balanced coffers, he wasn't the cause. He tried his darnedest to mess it up. Bush..... Please challenge me and I'll retort. I am tired and haven't had dinner yet.

POW!!!!!

Oh, absolutely... I love them...great controllers, but I didn't know you could shoot approaches...WOW. Now if they could do something about the poor RCO reception at KGED. At the 22 end of the field, they can't receive you or it is faint. I always get my clearance at the FBO and negotiate the void time.

They almost did yesterday.........it gave the markets some nice action. 12/16...bet...We disagree politically. If I took that (4/15) bet, I'd have to stroke a check to the ACLU or some godforsaken liberal cause. But.....1/10th of % before April 30th? You'll never hear the end of it.

I won't take that because I don't welch and don't want to be on the hook for it. 12/16......brang it.

I'll take a Fed rate hike, not bond ratings or other through 12/16. Easy money. They have to. And with oil down and the Saudi's flooding the market, stability won't last long. Here's what I want to know....Gas tax or not? Will any significant dollars go to anything that resembles a bridge project? 7 cents? More?

How? They are about to turn off the treasury spigot. When the Quant-sleezing ends, inflation will follow too. The market was up yesterday based primarily on a Fed rate hike. Wall St eats that shhhhit up!!! And remember, Andy......alllllll that great stuff your guy has done, is underpinned in $18 tril of debt. Just sayin'....somethings gotta give. Treasury can't keep buying bonds from John Corzine, ah........wait......sorry.....he lost his wallet.

It's the personal stuff......just argue on merit.

Please...... do. You don't need skill, just a point of view. Mooney? Skill.

GAI is a 7 min cab ride to the Shady Grove metro station, or a 40 minute cab ride into the city. There are three, really close-in. College Park, Potomac/Hyde and Freeway, however, I would suggest they are a PITA to get transportation into the city. Virginia airports are also difficult. I always tell people that highways around here are congested and if you are entering DC from Virginia, you must cross at least one bridge and you'll deal with horrible traffic. Virgina has been a decade behind on road contruction since the 60's. It would not be smart for me to suggest Manasas or Leesburg, it could be over an hour into the city. Why not spend an extra 25 mins in your Mooney and do GAI, instead of wasting time elsewhere. Trade 25 mins of flying time for the same in traffic.

So why are you trying to sell this here? I don't understand and I'll say it again, there are some who seek to be above the fray while wallowing in it. Take a leadership roll, call the administrator and do what you have to do. But for the life of me, why are you wasting boundless energy discussing it here? Are you seeking affirmation? Relevance? Friendship? Communtiy leaders build alliances when developing policy, we have one in the White House. Find the 7-8 people who are like minded in your cause, PM them, send them messages...then put it in the oven, let it cook and see what you come up with. I for one and as a politcal junkie, would value your social and political thought, not undermine it.

Anthony, All good points, please join in more often. The posts here are the responsibility of each author and are forever a part of the data stream. An extensive Google search yielded no bomb throwing that would be detrimental to the Moonespace community. I searched "Mooneyspace" and "Mooney Aircraft" and I searched twelve pages deep on each. Not a negative or billigerant comment showed up anywhere and this thread did not show up once. Now, if someone searched "Little Timmy", that's a different story and proves exactly my point, nobody would. Come on...lighten up, join in. Or buy an A36 and run with the PhD's on the other site.

In Montana, it would be an inqusition.

Easy now...

Oh and I'll bet if you were confronted and had to take one down, the DNR in that state would have more questions about the protected species and your motives, than the value of your own life. Oh....and the forms to fill out. In Maryland, we cannot carry because of another species, mainly residing in PG County and Baltimore City.

This thread is self contained and a known quantity. A quick check, I saw more than 5 guys on this thread, who contributed professionally and fraternally on at least 5 other threads yesterday. Run for Mayor.

44?

I'd have to check. They cannot be concealed, so one would have to understand transport laws. In some states, they are required to be in a case, in the trunk and not immediately accessible. In other states, the proverbial pick-up truck gun rack may still be allowed, although, I would now caution against the a pick-up truck gun rack being adorned by a Confederate flag. It tends to grab the attention of african american troopers.

Oh.....yeah...the Koch Bros and Tea Party single handedly. Or were these elected officals accountable to the public participating in a political process?

What kind of long gun?

Well, their first amendment right too. Because in their case, they need the second ammendment to back up their criminal first amendemnt behaviors. Can somebody procure me a conceal carry permit in the Republic of Maryland?

Life time membership. I should post pic's of the last black tie gala.