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I have this one from my old C model. Free if you’ll cover shipping. David

Yes it does. As soon as I get more photo storage, I’ll post some more pictures (donation sent to Craig) This is incredible to see such an early Mooney M20 after all the newer ones I’ve worked on. The history of the build is neat to see first hand. David

Hi Kerry, I do have the prop and it almost looks new. I removed it for transport as it stuck out past the trailer too far to haul it safely. I’m going to reinstall it and do an engine run in the next month or so after determining the wing condition. All signs so far are of a clean solid wing. Thanks, David

Good morning, Looks to be called M20 service manual. The one I purchased was $15. There’s one more on there but the seller is asking $128. I also found them available on Essco’s website for $41. I’m going to wait until I receive this manual to see if it includes parts in it. A lot of the early manuals I’ve seen and used didn’t have a separate IPC. David

Well, if it wasn’t available on an old website and given their current state of affairs, I doubt it’s available now. Found a copy on E-bay thanks to Don H.

Yes, online shows N/A for M20 models. Thanks

Looking for a copy of the maintenance and service manual for a 1955-57 Mooney M20 if anyone has a copy along with an IPC if available? Thanks, David

Next thing I need to acquire is a Maint manual and IPC for a 56 M20. David

I’m going to say about 6 hours. First time I’ve done this job and didn’t have all the tools I should have. Thank goodness for tape to make a longer punch out of a punch and extension. I also didn’t have any help during the disassembly. Engine hoist and saw horses were most useful to get it in to three pieces. Brought the wing and fuselage section home today on a 36 foot long trailer. Not especially fun going through Chicago to UGN. Airplane was in Gary Indiana. Wisconsin might have been less stressful than going down 94/294. Got some strange looks!

Yes, O-320.

Wasn’t planning on becoming a Mooney owner again, but today I finished the disassembly and pick up of a 1956 M20. Looks to be in pretty good shape so intentions are to bring it back to flying condition. Don H is going to post a couple of pictures as I don’t have any more space to post them.

Link didn’t work for me. Any details that can be shared directly here? Thanks

I’ll be interested to see if thousands of operators are seeing the same thing?

I decided to do some google searches to see if Lycoming or any engine shop for that matter endorses or recommends Camguard. I found none. Will continue to dig for that elusive endorsement.

I too will standby to hear what Don reports back from the cylinder shop. Will be interesting to hear why they feel the valve guide failed. David

What I have never seen is a report from an operator who used Canguard from engine overhaul to engine overhaul be compared against another engine that didn’t use Camguard at all for the same timeframe. That would be real data versus a lawn chair humidity test that didn’t simulate any real world conditions in a Lycoming engine. In conversations I’ve had with an engine overhaul shop, they saw no appreciable difference from running Camguard in relation to wear on a Lycoming engine. I would and still would today tell an operator to save that Camguard money at each oil change and put it in a fund to purchase a new camshaft at overhaul. If it gives you some comfort or peace of mind, then certainly use it. I’m still waiting on that definitive data today that proves beyond a doubt the marketing claim is true. David

Since I owned 2652W for 10 years before Don and if memory serves me right, #4 always ran the warmest. I am not a fan of Camguard on my own accord and not some wives tail. I tend to believe that maybe there’s an issue with Camguard and excessive heat that the cylinder shops are seeing? Who knows but I would at least listen to what the shop is saying as they’ve seen thousands of cylinders and keep up on the cylinder technology more than any operator. I’ve also spoken with Poplar Grove Airmotive as they’re in my back yard and I trust what they say over anyone else including Mike Busch. You can look at Don’s pictures of that engine and see that he and I have done well in engine management. David

Can you explain why you value an operators opinion much more than a shop that sees thousands of these parts? I find that mindset baffling? Thanks

The #4 cylinder on Peyton’s Mooney jumped back on today. Will wrap up the installation early this week and then the break in process can be done.

I hate to say it again Don, but just another reason I’m out of owning and flying airplanes. Glad 52W is in good hands though. David

The battery box can be removed but you’ll need another persons to be inside the aircraft to hold the nuts unless you have the avionics panels. If you have those, you can reach through and hold the nuts on the bolts with a wrench. That will give you plenty of room to remove the mag and also a chance to check your battery box for corrosion.

Who knows. This is not the first time something like this has happened at EAA and unfortunately won’t be the last unless the event is cancelled permanently.

How do you check and verify the insurance on 10000 airplanes? I work the insurance side for EAA for the Warbirds and we have to verify they have insurance, that it’s current, and has verbiage that states on the COI, Airshow flybys, formation flight and static display approved. I deal with about 250 airplanes that say they’re flying in the show and it’s absolutely nuts the first four days. I don’t know how the ultralights work or EAA main show for that matter. I have too much on my hands with just the warbirds.

This can only be considered if you can get both sides of the story. In many cases, we only hear one side and because this is primarily a pilot/owner populated forum, we get mostly this side. Hearing only one side can damage a mechanics business without them even knowing it. Also, some pilots have that champagne want list but only willing to pay for beer level unless it’s their Porsche or Mercedes, then the wallet is open without question.

Too bad we mechanics can’t leave a bad review for cheap owners and pilots.