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It seems to me at this point that insurance isnt worth the price we pay. I am looking at Liability and non movement insurance only for my 252. If i crash and survive the aircraft would be quite alot for parts. maybe 60% of the value. Do any of you just pay for liability? I fly for a profession with a ATP and thousands of hours and my insurance is very expensive and getting higher each year. What can I expect to pay for Liability only? I can afford the lose of my plane but cant afford to taxi into a gulfstream on the ramp. w t

The oil rod for my tsio 360mb engine broke and I have been shopping for a new one. Its hard to imagine that a new one cost over $300. Is it possible to find a generic oil rod and make my own marking? Does anyone know of a salvage tsio 360mb engine i could buy the oil rod from? Looking at the part numbers from Continental it looks like the MB engine has its own part number as compared to every other tsio 360 engine built. Any ideas or suggestions would be appreciated before I send off $312 for a $10 dip stick.

I used the 231 numbers then adjusted them for the 252. I have found that my 252 is around 5 to 7 knots faster than the posted 231 numbers and the fuel burn is very close. You can add 5 knots to all the 231 numbers and be pretty close

I talked with David in Kennett. I know they have a good reputation on MS forum and my decision came down to my local guys working with America's Aircraft and having a good relationship with them. Price was about the same. I was surprised some of the well known shops around the country quoted me 62G. I am sure they do great job but that is the same price as factory reman. Its hard to believe a engine rebuild is the price of a nice new car.

Has anyone used America's Aircraft Engines out of Oklahoma? A couple local mechanics where I am based (Denton, TX) have used them several times with good results. I thought about a factory rebuilt from airpower but the 62G is to high for my taste. I talked with jewel and he was about the same price as Americas Aircraft. It Turns out that I went to high school with the owner of Americas aircraft In Tulsa back in the day so I have decided to give them my business. BTW, its around 37G with factory cylinders. I love my 252 and how fast and efficient it is but Mx cost on this engine is much more than the IO 470 and 520 i have owned in the past.

I airline into DFW on the morning of the 18th around 930am. If AA is on time I should be able to get to my plane in Denton and make it down for lunch.

If you end up in roanoke then you will want to consider 52f (northwest regional) or Denton. 52f is a small private airport with a cool vibe and lots of experimental type planes around. Denton is where i keep my plane. Its a busy towered airport with plenty of services, either would be a good choice depending what you are looking for

How could FAA they possibly find me PIC if i am unable to be fly because of either drinking a beer or not having my glasses on ect. . Either case would 100% of the time keep me from being PIC. I always drink a beer before my wife flies us somewhere. slam dunk, no way for me to be PIC.

I Agree, I fly for a living as well and my wife has her private. When we fly together (often) she is ALWAYS pic. I can leave my medical at home or drink a beer and legally could not be PIC even though I have a ATP, CFII, ect. Its not hard to bust a reg on airspace or a notam i didnt read close enough and risk my paycheck.

Duncan aviation in Lincoln NE using a silk screening process that is very fast and looks great. I picked up a $200,000. paint job they did for a Gulfstream 550 and they missed placards all over that airplane. It only took a few hours and like i said the silk screening placards look great. (should for 200k) I am going to look into how to do this on my m20k.

Thank you all for your replies, great info. Working on a place to stay then it will be easier to figure our what airport to use. As some of you have stated a place to stay in sept is tight on supply. I was hoping that the tourist season would be winding down with the kids back in school but no such luck.

Going to Lake Tahoe the last week of Sept and we have a condo rented. Cant wait to fly the mooney out west from texas. Planning on leaving a few days early and looking at visiting Yosemite. What airports near Yosemite would anyone recommend? I do not need a rental car since my brother is driving up from SAC and will pick us up. Just need a place for overnight parking and fuel. Also any insight on places to stay near or in Yosemite? Hope the fires are out by then.

I have used my speed brakes a couple times to make sure they work in my 252. Cant remember a time I have needed them yet in 300 hours of flying. I wouldnt pay any extra to have them. Maybe i am too cheap, figure i will use altitude for speed or less fuel on the way down. 20" manifold keeps the engine warm enough on my plane

One thought I would like to bring up is that most (almost all) stalls in transport aircraft are with the auto pilot on.. Stall training in the simulator at my work has changed from hand flying them to using the auto pilot until the stall then of course hand flying the recovery. For those of you that have autopilots i would become familiar with how your autopilot and airplane react to approaching and stall. Your more likely to stall the plane by mismanagement of the auto pilot than hand flying for those of you that use auto pilots regularly.

I have had my 252 for two years and have flown it about 200 hours and so far it has been a great airplane as far as cost and performance. I usually run it at 28" manifold and 2500 rpm at any altitude. the fuel burn is usually around 12.8gph and tas anywhere from 165 knots down low to 190k up at fl190. insurance is around 1400 and both of my annuals have been around 2500 including a few small repairs. I did have to replace the alternator and voltage regulator that was around 1500. Usually its just my wife and I so useful load has not been a issue. I have had 4 normal size adults in it for short flights ( i only have about 30 gallons when i do that) and once the back seat pax get in there is plenty of room. I am surprised how many times I have taken advantage of flying higher because of summer temps or wx or to catch a tail wind and often fly in the 15 to 17500' range. I owned a cessna 182 before and the mooney has been cheaper to operate per mile. Good luck on your search for a new airplane.

RNP approaches take special air crew training and aircraft operator has to have approval to perform these approaches. I use RNP approaches at work. Kind of a pain to go thru the approval process but the RNP let you shoot low approaches into mountain airports for example.

Just got a renewal notice on my 1986 m20k. It went from just under 1400 to almost 2000. (nothing changed as far as hanger or pilot) I currently have USAIG. I sent my info in to aopa to see what kind of quote I get back from them. I was shocked at the increase. Has anyone else seen this kind of increase?

I have a 28volt system, the 800270-503 I believe is for the two alternator option. I am trying to find a shop that can rebuild my regulator

Cant find a voltage regulator for my m20k 252 with single alternator It had a electro delta VR802 part number on the current regulator, Lasar gave me two new part numbers of 800270-501 Or 940170-501 I have tried maxwell, dugosh zefttronics. No one has part and says it would be weeks and cost vary from 800 up. Crazy. Anyone have one for sale? Thanks

Thank you, went by and talked to billy today at 52f.

Thanks but i have the 28 volt, ( the expensive one)

My alternator case broke on my m20k last week. Weird. Anyway, I don't want to ferry it to Denton, ft worth or Longview in fear that it could cause more trouble. My plane is at 16x (prop wash) if you know of any mechanics in the north dfw area that would be willing to come over I would appreciate any info.

93 hours of mooney time having fun and going when and where I want. 600 hours flying around the world for money to pay for the mooney.

Planning a trip to ft lauderdale (from Dallas) in mid Jan to visit my daughter and would like to fly out to Bahamas. Any suggestions on renting a raft and life jackets in south Florida? Haven't decided yet, what places to go visit, so many choices. Can't wait to get get started.

Flew our m20k 252 up to rogers ark and found the engine was running a little rough on the descent. After landing tested the mags and sure enough it would barely run on the left mag.Had a local mechanic pull the mags and drove over to quality aircraft accessories in Tulsa and the left mag tested bad. They could not rebuild that mag and I ended up purchasing a new slick mag (part number 6324). Now is where it gets weird. installed the new mag yesterday and it would barely run on the new mag. Mechanic checked timing several times and the plugs and leads and his best guess is a bad new mag. Of course we couldnt get a another mag until monday so I got the pleasure of driving back to Texas 7 hours instead of 1.5 hour flight. The local mechanic seemed like a knowledgeable guy but is there anything special about replacing a pressure mag on the 252 that he could have overlooked?