KSMooniac Posted June 29, 2012 Report Posted June 29, 2012 I'm willing to try, but couldn't find a way to get the mooneyspace discount! I emailed you. Quote
Txgroup Posted August 3, 2012 Author Report Posted August 3, 2012 scott we are good? all others interested in the discount, please email me at txgroup@aol.com Quote
KSMooniac Posted August 6, 2012 Report Posted August 6, 2012 All good! I received it promptly and finally got to fly with it yesterday... of course right after we had a cool-down in KS! I only put a few pounds of ice and a bit of water and it worked well. I've got a trip to TX on Wednesday and it will get a good workout with a full load of ice, and then I'll report back. To those on the fence, I had been intending to build one of these myself for a couple of years now, but it never made it up my priority list. The price was just low enough to get me to purchase vs. spending a few hours finding parts and assembling my own. There is a handy remote control switch too that makes this wonderful to use from the baggage compartment (assuming you have a 12V socket back there). Go for it! Quote
rbridges Posted August 6, 2012 Report Posted August 6, 2012 2 questions. Is it much of a draw on the alternator and does it kick out a lot of moisture from the ice? Quote
1964-M20E Posted August 6, 2012 Report Posted August 6, 2012 I saw oneof these devices not sure which but it actually used a small pump an circulated the cool water through a heater core and then passed the air over the core. This elimnates shoving mosture into the cabin from the ice and would actually remove mosture. Of couse at 12k feet the extra humidity would be welcome. Quote
Piloto Posted August 6, 2012 Report Posted August 6, 2012 What's wrong with a little bit of sweat? It helps you loose weight. You can also just leave the door open and get ventilated by the big fan up front when on the ground. In the summer flying above 6,000 feet will give you air conditioning temps in the cabin. Not to undermine the B-Kool product but when you travel with family you carry a lot stuff that there may not be room for the B-Kool. But if being cool is essential to you get it. José Quote
rob Posted August 6, 2012 Report Posted August 6, 2012 Quote: Piloto What's wrong with a little bit of sweat? It helps you loose weight. You can also just leave the door open and get ventilated by the big fan up front when on the ground. In the summer flying above 6,000 feet will give you air conditioning temps in the cabin. Not to undermine the B-Kool product but when you travel with family you carry a lot stuff that there may not be room for the B-Kool. But if being cool is essential to you get it. José Quote
KSMooniac Posted August 7, 2012 Report Posted August 7, 2012 Rob's experience mirrors my own in KS and trips all directions from here in the 4-6 months of summer. Even at 9,000 feet the OAT is in the 70s plus the greenhouse effect....makes for an uncomfortable cabin. Mine will get a good workout tomorrow going to TX on a 3 hr trip, and I expect I'll be using it for any trip where I'm not volumed-out or weight limited. (Tomorrow is solo) Quote
rbridges Posted August 7, 2012 Report Posted August 7, 2012 Quote: KSMooniac Rob's experience mirrors my own in KS and trips all directions from here in the 4-6 months of summer. Even at 9,000 feet the OAT is in the 70s plus the greenhouse effect....makes for an uncomfortable cabin. Mine will get a good workout tomorrow going to TX on a 3 hr trip, and I expect I'll be using it for any trip where I'm not volumed-out or weight limited. (Tomorrow is solo) Quote
Mcstealth Posted August 8, 2012 Report Posted August 8, 2012 Hurry up with that report Scott. Oh, you are still in the air, probably. Quote
KSMooniac Posted August 8, 2012 Report Posted August 8, 2012 Actually, I'm not in the air yet! Give me a few hours more to get airborne... :-D Quote
Txgroup Posted August 11, 2012 Author Report Posted August 11, 2012 Draw for 12 volt units is about 5 amps Half that for the 28 v units Quote
carusoam Posted August 11, 2012 Report Posted August 11, 2012 I would need to install a few extra power plugs... 1) BKool 2) GPS, portable 3) SkyRadar, inflight weather 4) iPad w/ WingX, flights over 6 hours I'm using this list to discuss the topic with my finance minister... Best regards, -a- Quote
Txgroup Posted August 11, 2012 Author Report Posted August 11, 2012 If its any help, our cords are almost 12 feet long Quote
Txgroup Posted August 11, 2012 Author Report Posted August 11, 2012 One socket, on ground. B-kool. In the air. Gps, with an occasional turning on of the iPad ( I let mine hibernate in flight and use it for charts). Descent b-kool. Again All in fun of course, I did install a remote socket in the baggage area of my plane for the b-kool. Use the remote to turn it on and off? It's fused and wired direct to the battery so I can up run the Kooler during furl turns Quote
carusoam Posted August 11, 2012 Report Posted August 11, 2012 TX, We are considering adding a plug in the back for the sky radar. I think Byron mentioned this once. Tell me again about the remote on/off? Best regards, -a- Quote
KSMooniac Posted August 13, 2012 Report Posted August 13, 2012 carusoam, They use a key-fob remote to turn the unit on and off, so you can put it in the baggage area and not have to play contortionist to activate it! Very nice feature. Quote
Txgroup Posted August 17, 2012 Author Report Posted August 17, 2012 Scott more or less summed it up. Use it to tuen on and off as needed. Once at altitude, tuen off,ice quits melting, turn it on for decent, remain kool. We are still honoring the OSH special pricing. Email me at txfroup@aol.com for payment details Bob Quote
flyboy0681 Posted August 17, 2012 Report Posted August 17, 2012 Quote: rob It seems to me that lately it requires 10,000 to get AC-ish temps. We took a trip in late June from Wisconsin to Kansas and even at 10,000 temps were in the high 70s. Add the sun to that and it's not comfortable at all. Quote
Txgroup Posted July 29, 2013 Author Report Posted July 29, 2013 We are pleased to announce B-Kool Version 2.i. This is basically the same internals as our highly successful 2.0 version but cosmetically more enhanced. Pricing remains the same at $369.00 (Oshkosh special pricing) for the 12v versions and $399.00 for the 24v units. This new unit is slightly thinner than the older one and slightly taller. This should help when putting it thru the baggage door of the older M20 series planes. Please contact me direct for the special pricing. Txgroup@aol.com 928-300-4045 Quote
KSMooniac Posted July 29, 2013 Report Posted July 29, 2013 Nice change! I think smaller footprint and taller chest is a most welcome change... We used it on a long XC from KS to DE, NYC and back last week and it worked great, as expected. For power I ended up buying a 3-port 12V socket adapter with a 2-prong plug interface on the other end that conveniently matches my Battery MINDer harness that is attached to the battery (with an inline fuse). For the big trip, I plugged the B-Kool and GDL 39 into the 3-port 12V adapter in the back of the plane and didn't have to worry about tangling with cords in the cockpit. It worked great, and the fiance was happy I brought it along despite our high-volume load on this trip (2 bicycles + bags for 5 days). The remote control is VERY handy. Quote
Piloto Posted August 7, 2013 Report Posted August 7, 2013 Can it be that Florida is cooler than Wisconsin? On my trip up to Hilton Head a few weeks ago I flew at 6.5 and the OAT read 69, which made for an extremely comfy ride. I had the same temperature experience here in Florida and in Puerto Rico. In Florida air temperature is dominated by the sea breeze coming from the east which is colder than the ground temperature. But inland like in Atlanta the air temperature is dominated by the ground temperature. When there is no breeze the ground hot air temperature rises making the air at altitude warmer than in Florida. You can get your bare foot burn on asphalt in the summer but not on the water. José Quote
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