Troy Jordan Posted May 29, 2024 Report Posted May 29, 2024 I am purchasing a 2008 Type S Acclaim. What is the deal with the usable fuel? I do not have the actual POH yet, but the owner says 100 usable, one POH says 95 usable, talks in the forum range to 106. Hopefully someone has the simple answer.
exM20K Posted May 29, 2024 Report Posted May 29, 2024 (edited) Grabbed this screenshot for another post… If the filler neck has two holes drilled in it, that gives 100 gallons usable. Edited May 29, 2024 by exM20K
LANCECASPER Posted May 29, 2024 Report Posted May 29, 2024 Look at the placards next to the fuel caps, but I believe all Acclaim Type S had the 100 usable. If they added on the Monroy Long Rage Tank STC, like I have on mine, then it is 130.
dkkim73 Posted May 29, 2024 Report Posted May 29, 2024 @LANCECASPER I think there is one more variant. My POH is not with me, but I believe there is a 50g-usable-each variant? My POH has a thin supplement specifically for the tank variant, and it isn't much different than the lowest version...
LANCECASPER Posted May 29, 2024 Report Posted May 29, 2024 [mention=8122]LANCECASPER[/mention] I think there is one more variant. My POH is not with me, but I believe there is a 50g-usable-each variant? My POH has a thin supplement specifically for the tank variant, and it isn't much different than the lowest version... All Bravos, Ovations and Acclaims had 89 usable (44.5 per side) in the POH. Somewhere in the early 2000's on Ovations and Bravos, Mooney charged a fee ($1,000 or $2,000 if I remember correctly) to put the filler neck in with the holes, which allowed 100 usable (50 per side). They called it the "Extended Fuel Option" and probably has a POH supplement. It's my understanding that all Acclaim Type S airplanes were delivered with the filler necks that allowed 50 per side and upon delivery they put the "optional" placard next to the fuel caps. None of the articles in the magazines ever mentioned anything but 100 or 130 gallons for the Type S. Again, the other option was to have a Mooney Service Center (or the Factory Service Center) install the Monroy 130 gallon STC and new placards.
Vance Harral Posted May 29, 2024 Report Posted May 29, 2024 3 hours ago, exM20K said: If the filler neck has two holes drilled in it, that gives 100 gallons usable. Stupid question from a vintage Mooney owner: why do the newer Mooneys have such deep "filler necks" in the first place, given all the grief they cause with actually filling the tank to capacity? I'm not near my airplane at the moment, but my recollection is that the structure that holds the fuel cap on my M20F is only trivially thicker than the wing skin itself. You don't read threads here on Mooneyspace about C/E/F/J owners trying to "burp" their tanks to get more fuel in, as so often comes up with the K/M/R/S/TN.
Pinecone Posted May 29, 2024 Report Posted May 29, 2024 4 hours ago, exM20K said: Grabbed this screenshot for another post… If the filler neck has two holes drilled in it, that gives 100 gallons usable. Interesting it allows 3% isopropanol. My 252 only allows 1%.
exM20K Posted May 30, 2024 Report Posted May 30, 2024 1 hour ago, Pinecone said: Interesting it allows 3% isopropanol. My 252 only allows 1%. It would be interesting to find a Seneca V POH and see what they permit. -dan
Pinecone Posted May 30, 2024 Report Posted May 30, 2024 12 hours ago, exM20K said: It would be interesting to find a Seneca V POH and see what they permit. -dan They don't mention it at all.
Will.iam Posted May 31, 2024 Report Posted May 31, 2024 On 5/29/2024 at 5:52 PM, Pinecone said: Interesting it allows 3% isopropanol. My 252 only allows 1%. That’s weird my 252 allows 3%
Pinecone Posted May 31, 2024 Report Posted May 31, 2024 6 hours ago, Will.iam said: That’s weird my 252 allows 3% Serial Number/Year? Mine is Encore upgraded, so I wonder if that is the difference.
Fly Boomer Posted May 31, 2024 Report Posted May 31, 2024 10 hours ago, Will.iam said: That’s weird my 252 allows 3% First, there have been several versions of POH for the M20K, and then there may have been changes between revisions (A, B, C, etc): 1224-F 1226-E 1228-D 1230-B 1232 1234-C 1236-B 3300 3302 3303-A
Pinecone Posted May 31, 2024 Report Posted May 31, 2024 I have a digital copy of 3303 on my computer. That one says 1%. 3303-A is the Encore or Encore converted 252 version. The only difference between 3303 and 3303-A is the title page and revisions page. I have to check to see which one is in the plane.
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