Close your eyes!

[Mooneymite]

From AIN:

 

FAA Alerts Operators on Visual Approach Risks The FAA is advising operators to remain aware of risks associated with visual approaches, noting that assessments have found such procedures a common contributing factor in incorrect airport surface approaches and landings as well as other excursion events. In a recent Safety Alert for Operators (SAFO 21005), the FAA noted that air traffic control may clear pilots for visual approaches to expedite traffic but said, “This expediency must be balanced with safety. It is the pilot’s responsibility…to advise ATC as soon as possible if a visual approach is not desired.” An FAA assessment found “the risk of experiencing a Class B airspace excursion and/or a wrong surface event was greatly increased where visual approach clearances were accepted.” The FAA advised operators to use visual approaches judiciously and consider requesting instrument approaches to reduce the likelihood of lining up on the wrong runway or on a taxiway. If a visual approach is used, the FAA said operators must strictly adhere to their standard operating procedures, use navigational aids associated with the assigned runway, and maintain a stabilized approach. Further, operators should ensure that training programs include scenario-based modules that emphasize risk-mitigation strategies and best practices. NBAA, highlighting the SAFO, noted the importance that pilots remain well-versed in visual approaches given the far higher number of business aircraft operations at non-towered airports. Read More

[N201MKTurbo]

That's where our skills exceed theirs. But then some of us are them.

[kortopates]

3 minutes ago, N201MKTurbo said:

That's where our skills exceed theirs. But then some of us are them.

I fully agree with you, but it is a lot easier for us piston pilots with our much slower approach speeds.  

[N201MKTurbo]

3 minutes ago, kortopates said:

I fully agree with you, but it is a lot easier for us piston pilots with our much slower approach speeds.  

It would be interesting to analyze how much VFR time the offenders had. I have met a few airline pilots who were averse to flying VFR at all. I think they think it is scary.

[Mooneymite]

1 minute ago, N201MKTurbo said:

It would be interesting to analyze how much VFR time the offenders had. I have met a few airline pilots who were averse to flying VFR at all. I think they think it is scary.

Years ago after the National/Pan Am merger, the word on the street was the two most dangerous crews in aviation were a Pan Am crew doing a visual approach and a National crew doing a crossword puzzle.

Certain operators do a lot of visual approaches, others...not so much.

[philip_g]

My local field has had a lot of landings on the wrong runway lately. My understanding was most aiines require them to tune the LOC to avoid this. Ibdibit because I'm not very bright and its a good crosscheck and it makes it easier to find the runway if I don't see it yet 

[Mooneymite]

2 hours ago, philip_g said:

My local field has had a lot of landings on the wrong runway lately. My understanding was most aiines require them to tune the LOC to avoid this. Ibdibit because I'm not very bright and its a good crosscheck and it makes it easier to find the runway if I don't see it yet 

Great practice!

Anyone who has not landed on the wrong runway, or at the wrong airport always needs to add the word, "yet" to their disclaimer.

I landed on the wrong runway once.  I was talking about extraneous stuff to the tower controller on final and got distracted.  After I rolled out, the tower guy asked laconically, "Did you know you landed on the wrong runway?".

Ooooops!

[philip_g]

52 minutes ago, Mooneymite said:

Great practice!

Anyone who has not landed on the wrong runway, or at the wrong airport always needs to add the word, "yet" to their disclaimer.

I landed on the wrong runway once.  I was talking about extraneous stuff to the tower controller on final and got distracted.  After I rolled out, the tower guy asked laconically, "Did you know you landed on the wrong runway?".

Ooooops!

I have lined up for the wrong one before and caught it in time. I also had a student do it going into GGG on a bfr

 

Being based at a class b airport you don't want to mess around with wrong surfaces. It's not taken lightly

Edited August 27, 2021 by philip_g

[kortopates]

Of course not every runway has ILS or even an approach. Garmin solves this problem very nicely with their GTN navigators offering visual approaches to every runway, and often with a glide slope when terrain allows.

Before the GTN’s, the other simple solution, absent an approach, that works on all GPS navigators is to set up OBS mode on the runway heading. Not perfect when there are multiple runways but certainly helps you get to lined up on the correct airport and runway with time to adjust when you see the runway!


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