Joe Zuffoletto Posted April 14, 2016 Report Posted April 14, 2016 Its a horrendous paint scheme, but I like the improvements, especially the second door and keypad FMS. Still mystified as to why they didn't bump it to 310hp, though. Quote
jetdriven Posted April 14, 2016 Report Posted April 14, 2016 What I heard is they have a 20-something kid at the California location who conjured up all these wacky paint schemes. Maybe that's popular with the skateboard or the import tuner crowd, but it looks really awful to me. Quote
mike_elliott Posted April 14, 2016 Report Posted April 14, 2016 14 hours ago, Hank said: Those long bodies sure do sit tail low, don't they? Yes they do, and most have a runway "lightened" tail hook. Proper Transition training is key to keeping your metal your metal when you go to a long body. Quote
rbridges Posted April 14, 2016 Report Posted April 14, 2016 29 minutes ago, jetdriven said: What I heard is they have a 20-something kid at the California location who conjured up all these wacky paint schemes. Maybe that's popular with the skateboard or the import tuner crowd, but it looks really awful to me. Maybe they wanted something eye catching (good or bad). Publicity is publicity. Quote
jclemens Posted April 14, 2016 Author Report Posted April 14, 2016 10 hours ago, rainman said: Guys, who cares about the colors, it has a second door! I like that the designers responded to consumers request. Now that it has a carbon fiber fuselage, if they could just pressurize it folks may order it in even higher numbers? The fuselage is not carbon fiber, it is just fiberglass. And the whole thing isn't, just the cabin. They basically took an acclaim and cut the metal away, replacing it with fiberglass to make it wider and incorporate two doors. Quote
takair Posted April 14, 2016 Report Posted April 14, 2016 26 minutes ago, jclemens said: The fuselage is not carbon fiber, it is just fiberglass. And the whole thing isn't, just the cabin. They basically took an acclaim and cut the metal away, replacing it with fiberglass to make it wider and incorporate two doors. How and where did they make it wider? I would have thought the steel tube fuse limited width? Is it only wider in the doors? Quote
jetdriven Posted April 15, 2016 Report Posted April 15, 2016 (edited) All that change, fiberglass skin and door sills,, steel tube rearrangement. Two doors. Longer doors and wider door openings. and it's still only a minor alteration to the FAA. ...but an HID landing light is not. It's strange http://www.planeandpilotmag.com/article/we-fly-mooney-acclaim-ultra/#.VxA7kcg8LCQ Edited April 15, 2016 by jetdriven 1 Quote
takair Posted April 15, 2016 Report Posted April 15, 2016 17 minutes ago, jetdriven said: All that change, fiberglass skin and door sills,, steel tube rearrangement. Two doors. Longer doors and wider door openings. and it's still only a minor alteration to the FAA. ...but an HID landing light is not. It's strange http://www.planeandpilotmag.com/article/we-fly-mooney-acclaim-ultra/#.VxA7kcg8LCQ I agree. If this were truly "minor", it would imply that we could add this on to our aircraft with a log entry. I suspect Mooney had a certification plan and their fair share of paperwork. My guess is that the hazard/failure category was minor, but the alteration was likely a major alteration to the TC. On a side note, I notice that in some of the in flight photos the doors seem to not be flush at the top. Is this my imagination? Quote
manoflamancha Posted April 15, 2016 Report Posted April 15, 2016 Its nice that Mooney finally decided to wisely add two doors to the upcoming Ovation and Acclaim. Still for 700K plus, I'd rather have an older Bravo/Ovation and use difference to buy a home, boat and invest the balance in futures. Quote
Joe Zuffoletto Posted April 15, 2016 Report Posted April 15, 2016 11 hours ago, mike_elliott said: Yes they do, and most have a runway "lightened" tail hook. Proper Transition training is key to keeping your metal your metal when you go to a long body. My tail hook is still my own. A couple months ago I hung a GoPro off it, reducing my tail clearance to 10", and I got a friendly ration of s**t for doing a three-point landing that was documented by the video. Now you all know why. 1 Quote
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