Houman Posted April 30, 2014 Report Posted April 30, 2014 Hi, I need to install 3" rudder pedal extension in the M20K Rocket I just purchased, but can't find a supplier for that. Southwest Texas Aviation site that has it on their Mooney modification items, it says 399 for a pair, but when calling, they tell me it's 370 per pedal, so just wondering since it's factory built, if I can get it cheaper. Does anyone knows other distributor for Mooney aftermarket or modification products, ideall in Canada ? Thanks !!! Quote
RocketAviator Posted April 30, 2014 Report Posted April 30, 2014 Yea I have them on my Rocket, bought pair for both sides planning on installing brakes & extensions on right side when I get time. Paid little more from a Mooniac in Canada but also received rudder peddles with the extensions. Looking at them now they are very simple one might consider self production, minor install or silence... Simple parts! Quote
Houman Posted May 1, 2014 Author Report Posted May 1, 2014 Ok, let me know how it goes for the brakes on the right side, I was disappointed when I noticed that on the rocket, but the engine performances were may more important than having a break on the right side, since I don't plan to ever sit there... Quote
jetdriven Posted May 1, 2014 Report Posted May 1, 2014 I put brakes in the RH side of my 201, after talking with N601RX who did his before me. It took me 3 full days to get it all. The hardware was easy. You have the right side brakes and pedals installed in 3 hours. The fun part was bending all the tubing and clamping it. In two places, you must put a bolt through FIVE adel clamps, a steel tube spacer, and the fuselage frame to put a nut on it. The standard set of pilot curse words would not suffice, I had to invent a few. Regarding the pedal spacers, I took the drawings and had a machine shop make these "tractor parts" and I installed them as owner-produced. Quote
Piloto Posted May 1, 2014 Report Posted May 1, 2014 Here is a drawing of how it install on the pedal. It is just a bracket with three holes. To get the extension the pedal is attached to the actuating rudder tube on the rear holes of the pedal. The bracket provides the added hole for the brakes link. The longer the bracket the closer the upper part (brakes) will be to your foot. I made mine out of aluminum 1/8" 6061-T6. After 2000hrs never had any problems with them. Any experimental aircraft owner can build them for a six pack in less than an hour. As an added note. If you have articulating seats avoid the mid elevation position if you weight over 250 pounds. The added stress in turbulence or hard landing cracks the crank on the articulation mechanism causing it to not be able to raise the seat. The previous owner of my M20J was over 300 pounds causing it to break. I replaced the tubing and crank with 4130 steel tubing instead of the original aluminum. No problem since. José Quote
jetdriven Posted May 1, 2014 Report Posted May 1, 2014 Pedal Extension.JPG Here is a drawing of how it install on the pedal. It is just a bracket with three holes. To get the extension the pedal is attached to the actuating rudder tube on the rear holes of the pedal. The bracket provides the added hole for the brakes link. The longer the bracket the closer the upper part (brakes) will be to your foot. I made mine out of aluminum 1/8" 6061-T6. After 2000hrs never had any problems with them. Any experimental aircraft owner can build them for a six pack in less than an hour. José Jose, the drawings show that part to be made of 1/8" 4130N steel plate. Also, the part you are referring to is the 1.5" extensions. The 3" extensions have a few more parts than that. Quote
Piloto Posted May 1, 2014 Report Posted May 1, 2014 Jose, the drawings show that part to be made of 1/8" 4130N steel plate. Also, the part you are referring to is the 1.5" extensions. The 3" extensions have a few more parts than that. Is long enough for me. And my rear passengers get more leg room. I made them of aluminum because it was what I had on hand. After all the pedal is made of aluminum. José Quote
Houman Posted May 1, 2014 Author Report Posted May 1, 2014 I think we have a set in stock. Clarence Can you tell me how much and if you are in Canada ? you can email me please at : Pilotinglife@hotmail.com Thanks !!! Quote
Aviator Posted May 1, 2014 Report Posted May 1, 2014 I have a set of 3" extensions removed from an Ovation. They are in new condition. Let me know if you are interested. Sent by Jim Flynn using Tapatalk. Quote
Houman Posted May 6, 2014 Author Report Posted May 6, 2014 I ended up buying them directly at the Mooney Service Part service, Steve Rue was amazingly nice and they think they have all the parts in stock, so I should be good... Thanks for everyone's help and comments !!! Quote
LGL Posted August 31, 2017 Report Posted August 31, 2017 (edited) I am interested in placing the 3" extensions on my m20r Just one side, if anyone has them for sale an email to lglpc@ cox.net would be best. Thanks Edited August 31, 2017 by LGL Added contact Quote
carusoam Posted September 4, 2017 Report Posted September 4, 2017 Welcome aboard, LGL. They are probably available through Mooney via the service centers... Contact the good folks at lasar if you don't have an MSC contact. Best regards, -a- Quote
JimK Posted July 5, 2020 Report Posted July 5, 2020 Jose', it is dangerous to make that rudder pedal extension out of aluminum. The engineer who designed it made it out of steel for good reasons. Also, you can't look at an adjacent part and say "it's made of aluminum so it's ok to make this part from aluminum. If that were true then it would be ok to make your brake discs from of aluminum because your wheel is aluminum. See what I mean? The fact that you haven't had a failure of your aluminum part may be because it hasn't fatigued out yet but it may already be cracked. I would replace it with 4130 if I were you. Quote
alextstone Posted July 5, 2020 Report Posted July 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, JimK said: Jose', it is dangerous to make that rudder pedal extension out of aluminum. The engineer who designed it made it out of steel for good reasons. Also, you can't look at an adjacent part and say "it's made of aluminum so it's ok to make this part from aluminum. If that were true then it would be ok to make your brake discs from of aluminum because your wheel is aluminum. See what I mean? The fact that you haven't had a failure of your aluminum part may be because it hasn't fatigued out yet but it may already be cracked. I would replace it with 4130 if I were you. Hi Jim, Welcome to MS! From what I understand, Jose has "left the building" due to pushback from radical ideas such as the one of which you just made mention. Quote
JimK Posted July 5, 2020 Report Posted July 5, 2020 Thanks for the info Alex. I hope Jose' didn't just leave to avoid pushback and then continue doing unauthorized modifications to his airplane. I was a Boeing structures engineer for 30 years and I certainly wouldn't do what he suggested with that rudder pedal extension or any other part on my airplane without having the structural analysis to back it up. Have a good day. Quote
carusoam Posted July 6, 2020 Report Posted July 6, 2020 Welcome back Jim, When you get a chance... Add some detail to your avatar area... This gives us an opportunity to learn something about you to help us remember your experience level... It takes a while to get to know who all the players are... It helps if you can share location and current Mooney, or next Mooney if you are looking for one.... It helps to realize how old a thread is before posting in it... it will help with context... There are also better ways to bring forth issues regarding the validity of somebody’s input... If we all have to have 30years of aviation experience to participate in this fine forum.... the conversations are going to get shorter and shorter until none exist... PP thoughts only, not a forum expert... Best regards, -a- Quote
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