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I've got a C so I'm smaller inside than your J. My overhead is just eyeball vents and I don't have the knee vents the J does. Airflow into the cabin in the C is garbage compared to a J. I still love the plane though.

That's how you know you reached the best possible deal for everyone involved.

I was thinking something along those lines, hopefully done a little more compactly. We don't have a ton of head room in our Mooneys and that takes up a lot of overhead space. I have some ideas, just have to prototype them to see what actually works in practice. I don't know how I'm going to attach it to the ceiling, I think I'll try to use existing screws if I can model it to do that. I'm thinking of doing something that will use vents like this. I can probably model the thread into the plenum so they screw right into it without needing the backer.

It's nice and tight against the AC, I've just got to model the ribs up top so there's no need for a hose clamp or zip tie. It took 3 tries to get it as tight as I wanted. The ribs are modeled, printing that now to see if I got the taper right. Sent from my Pixel 6a using Tapatalk

My personal feeling is that the insurance companies are the real evil in the system. Before they got involved, 2 reasonable people could work out a reasonable solution. Since they've become so embedded in everything we interact with, attorneys have become a necessity. Without them, insurance companies would probably never pay a claim, no matter how valid. Having spent a lot of time with Plaintiff's attorneys, I think of them more like the police protecting us from being walked all over by insurance companies and huge corporations with deep pockets that would be able to just outspend the victim if there weren't attorneys working on contingency. They're not all good, and certainly not doing what they do out of altruism but, on the whole I think they do more right than wrong. The worst part of all of is that we still end up paying for the insurance company's bad acts in higher premiums, either directly or indirectly through higher costs of goods and services so those providers can pay their higher premiums. It's really no lose for them.

It always amazes me when insurance companies and/or businesses fight something like this. Seems like it would be cheaper to just do the right thing in the beginning. My wife used to work for PI attorneys, they had a case where a guy originally wanted $35k to repair his car and pay for his medical bills after an ATM exploded while he was using it in a drive through. Yes, literally exploded, obviously not his fault. Insurance made him sue them and at the end of the day paid out a several million dollar judgement because they wouldn't do the right thing at the start. I hope you prevail and it's enough to make them have second thoughts about doing the same to someone else in the future. Sent from my Pixel 6a using Tapatalk

Send me your address and I'll mail you a couple once I finalize them - bernie@graniers.com Just cover the postage, you're really part of the design team so I'm not going to charge you for them. I'm still test fitting and should have it worked out this week. One of the things I'm working on getting right is the tightness of the fit, I'm adjusting the gap in the tab still. I made my shoulder a little wider than what I was seeing pictures of and I'm considering maybe putting a little pocket in the shoulder that will let me put some felt weatherstrip in it so it's got something to compress and fill the gap. I'm not sure if that's going to be necessary yet though. Good idea on the ribs, I'd just put an indentation for a hose clamp or zip tie to clamp the hose into. A taper with some ribs would be easier though. I'm not sure about how to attach it to the ceiling yet, I haven't gotten to that part on mine. Embarrassingly, I realized once mine showed up that the reason it was so cheap was because it didn't come with a battery. The Delta 2 1024W battery was on sale for 40% off (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B9XB57XM) so I ordered one of those instead of the small one. I'm still waiting for it and my battery cable to show up before I can use it in the plane. I don't know if it would help much with keeping it high but, it would be possible to print a rigid duct tube and a 90 to bring it up to the ceiling and then the rest would just be keeping it there. Actually, now that I'm typing this and thinking about it, doing it that way it wouldn't need to be round, it could be flattened out into a more rectangular shape along the ceiling and have vents along the way for the front and back seat passengers. I'll have to play around with that some in CAD and see what I can come up with. It would have to be done in sections because my printer build area is only about 10 cubic inches. Something modular would be more flexible though.

I got the hose adapter modeled today, I need to figure out how to orient it best for printing the overhangs. If anyone else decides to go this route,let me know and I'll print you a couple. I'm not sure what the Etsy guy printed them in, I'm going to use ASA though, it's strong and has the best heat tolerance of anything I can print. Sent from my Pixel 6a using Tapatalk

This is exactly what I've got in mind, for the reasons you've mentioned. I found a 270CFM bilge blower that will fit 4" duct for $30 and a 10A PWM dimmer for $14. I can work the wiring out so it plugs in with the charging cord for the AC, I've already got a 10A power port in the back seat for my B-Kool that should do the job, and 3D print something that will let me put the dimmer on the duct near the discharge so we can easily adjust it. I'm not really worried about the noise of the fan, I'm sure the ANC will block it out like it does the fan from the B-Kool, that sucker is pretty loud as well. I'll report back with the results, good or bad.

Cool, thanks for the info. The venting looks clean. Could you stop the exhaust leakage with a little duct tape? I'll share whatever I come up with when I do mine. I'm considering maybe adding a fan in the tube bringing the cold air to the front, I think one of the reasons the Plane AC worked so well was because it moved a lot of air, that's why I asked about the airflow. I always thought it better to move a lot of cool air than a little bit of cold air. Maybe something along these lines - https://a.co/d/e0rgzwx Sent from my Pixel 6a using Tapatalk

I see the condensate hose running into a cup, is there a condensate pump in this? I didn't see one in the specs, I thought it was just gravity drain, I could have missed that though. A pump would be a nice addition. Your install looks good, are you venting the exhaust through the lower part of the bulkhead or the hat rack? Did you insulate the exhaust hose at all? It's not a big difference but I found that wrapping that with a towel on the bigger portables did help a little by preventing the hose from radiating heat into the room. You could feel a difference at the hose vs outside the towel wrapping it. That was a longer run than this is though, so it might be overkill here but, a bunch of little things that don't matter individually could make a difference cumulatively. How strong is the fan for the cold air? Is it moving a lot of air or just enough to feel it blowing? Completely unsolicited advice coming. I tinted the windows on my plane using the Gila static window tint and it made a massive difference in the interior comfort in the plane. I used 5% on the back seat windows - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007BMXGBA - and 20% on the front windows - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00062YZXU. I didn't tint the windshield but, I did cut some extra squares of the 5% that I stick wherever the sun is coming in when I'm in flight. About a month ago, I got some of the reflective foil as well - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BX7Q7PFT. I've left that up in the back windows the last couple of flight and it helped keep the cabin cooler as well. I cut pieces for the front windows and the windshield as well, I put those in on the ramp when I have to park in the sun. If I'm going to be somewhere for more than an hour or so and have to leave the plane in the sun, I will also put the Bruce's cover on. My personal experience is that keeping the heat out of the plane to begin with can be easier than removing it once it's there. I think of all the things I did to help keep the plane cooler, tinting the windows was the one thing that had the most effect on it. The static tint does distort the view slightly, kind of like looking through the heat waves that come off concrete in the summer but, it's not enough that you can't tell what you're looking at or miss things and you quickly get used to it.

I've had a couple of things cause my JPI to behave oddly. Check the routing of the sensor wire to make sure it's as far away from plug wires and magnets as possible. My fuel flow wire was too close to a magneto and would give very erratic readings. Also, check your wires for any Knicks or damage. I had a small spot wear through the fabric that covers the splice on my oil temp sensor and it was behaving very erratically as well. And, as already mentioned, check/clean your connections. The sensors and wires are very susceptible to connection issues and electrical interference. Sent from my Pixel 6a using Tapatalk

Their wet delivery system is pretty ingenious and makes a lot of sense.

I came across one of the Ecoflow Wave 2 for less than $500 delivered so I decided I'm going to give one of these a try. My B-Kool does a good job and I can get a couple of hours out of it using block ice or frozen water bottles but, it would be nice to not have to deal with all that. I've been thinking about 3D printing some adapters for the back seat vents and plugs for the front vents to be able to direct the vent air straight into the condenser coil instead of having it mix with cabin air. The AC is supposed to be delivered today so I'll play around with it some and see what I can come up with. If I figure out something that works, I'll share it, I think it's doable without having to make permanent modifications to the plane or doing anything structural with some custom adapters and a little bit of duct line.

I've done the same with my 63 C which is supposed to have a total of 24.4 with 24 usable per side. I put 24.4 in one side and 24.5 in the other. Sent from my Pixel 6a using Tapatalk

You get at least 10HP for every sticker. Edelbrock stickers are good for 25HP. Sent from my Pixel 6a using Tapatalk

This is why I work on my own stuff. I even have a vehicle lift in the home shop. Honestly, it's not even the labor costs, it's the delays. I can get it done myself in less time than it takes me to get it to schedule with the mechanic and drop it off. Sent from my Pixel 6a using Tapatalk

I can really understand the concern with Blackstone since you paid for that service, you definitely should own that data. With Saavy, if you're using the free analysis service, it's a little different in my view. When you're not paying for the product then you have to expect that you, or your data, are the product. There should probably be an option to opt out but, it would be completely reasonable for them to then say that if we can't share your data, you'll need to have a paid subscription to use this service. To some extent we all know that the data is shared in an anonymized fashion or they wouldn't be able to give us information about where we fall in with the averages of airplanes like ours. For those that are paying for Saavy Analysis, or a higher level, I think the subscriber should absolutely control the data. I'm of two minds on this, while the engine is mine, I'd like my data to be private but also, if I buy something that has been getting analysis done by the previous owner, I'd really like to have that historical data to spot changes in trends and I'd want to give that same benefit to someone that bought something from me.

The AV-30 is a nice little unit, I've flown a 172 with a pair of them. The down side in your situation though, would be that it can't drive the AP whereas a G5 or GI275 can. So, the extra expense of the Garmin gives you AP control.

Thanks Don, it was fun figuring out how to get it all to work together. I've just about got it figured out for Piper as well, there are a few people on a wait list for a Piper version. My price is going to have to go up some soon, I'm not going to be able to keep up with orders much longer and will have to hire help before long. I'm trying to get the process streamlined and all the back end stuff setup before I really start advertising in earnest and bring someone else in to help. I'll be at RBD this week to go to a Dr appointment with my dad. I'd have seen if you were available for lunch but, I don't think there will be time this trip. I still want to meet you at some point, I may be able to make another trip in June just for lunch. I'll let you know if I can work that out.

I hadn't thought about that, I'll look into it. I guess a regular gym bag could work if it's got a divider in it. Yours should be there tomorrow. If you come up with something that'll work, let me know.

Maybe, I'm not sure how well it would work. Some of the edges may want to hang up going in and out which gets super frustrating. I'll have to try it and see. If I add a bag, I'll have to outsource the production which will necessarily increase the price, maybe more than having a bag is worth. There's lots of little things that would be nice to add to it, they all add complexity and expense though. I don't want this to end up being a $1,000+ tow bar, there's already a lot of options for that. The biggest goal for me is to provide a quality product for a low price, which is going to inevitably sacrifice some niceties. I'm not saying the bag is a bad idea, its actually a good idea, I'll just have to see what will work and how much of an impact it's going to have on the price. It could always be offered as an optional add on so people can decide for themselves if it's worth having or not.

1 - That's just how that nose wheel always looks, I checked it yesterday and it was exactly 32 pounds, which is what the manual calls for. I don't know why it always looks low like that, it bothers me sometimes. 2 - I could do it in a divided box, it would add weight and take up more space though. A bag maybe isn't so great because the parts would be banging into each other getting it in and out of the plane, which would eventually tear up that nice powder coat finish. I'll think on this some though, and see what I come up with, it's not a bad idea.

So when I bought my plane, I started asking about avionics pretty much immediately as well. The overwhelming majority said "Fly the plane for a year and then think about avionics." I ended up doing that and, I'm glad I did for a couple of reasons. The first being that even though I got a well maintained plane that had been flying 100+ hours per year, I had some unexpected maintenance come up pretty early on. Starter, battery and generator went out and had to be replaced, the generator got replaced with an alternator. I did the work myself and had my IA sign off on it so, I saved a lot but, it was still several AMUs to do all this. There were other little odds and ends here and there that ended up costing me something like 15 - 17 AMUs in the first year, before I got to my annual. I'm glad I didn't spend a bunch of money on avionics right away. When I got to my first annual, I only planned on installing and EDM-930. Scope creep got it's hooks in me and before it was done I ended up adding a 2nd G5 with LRUs, replacing an older NAVCOM with an SL-30, the EDM-930, replacing all the wiring and reorganizing the whole panel. I'm really happy with how it turned out and can honestly say that if I'd done avionics right in the beginning like I'd wanted to, it wouldn't have been anywhere this nice and/or functional. The TLDR is this, fly the plane for a year and then decide what to do about the panel. You'll know better what is and isn't working for you with the current setup.

I test fit it on a J with a 3 blade prop and it was fine. As you know, there's not a lot of side to side movement in the nose wheel. I don't know about a 4 blade if a regular tow bar works, this one should as well. Sent from my Pixel 6a using Tapatalk