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Thank you all for the in depth responses here, I've learned a lot. I'm looking forward to putting this knowledge into action. PPI is this weekend, we're going to just do an annual for that. Fingers crossed it all goes well! Sent from my Pixel 5 using Tapatalk

Sounds like I have been misinforming myself. So that brings up another question for me. How do you go LOP with a carbed motor, especially without an engine monitor? On the Cherokee I'm flying right now, we lean until the engine stumbles and then go rich until it runs smoothly plus a hair more. I'm guessing this is a little ROP but, without a monitor, I can't say for sure since we don't really know when we've peaked.

That's OK, I think we answered the question in the first few posts so now we can wander.

For what it's worth, I agreed to 58AMU for a 63C that has a G5, S-Tec 50 2 axis AP with altitude hold, an older IFR capable GPS and relatively recent leather seats. PPI is scheduled for this weekend and we're going to do it as an annual so the price might change but, I expect it to be as represented since it's being flown 5 - 10 hours per week.

I've been chatting with the guy I'm buying my C from and he mentioned that he sets his cruise by leaving the throttle at full and reducing the RPM to 2350 - 2400. He says this gives him about 140knots at 9GPH at 7500 - 8500 feet. I've normally read it the other way, that RPM is left close to full (2500 or so) and the manifold pressure is lowered to set cruise. Maybe that's just for turbo though. Now I'm curious to know what the norm is for the NA motors in the vintage Mooneys. Do you reduce RPM and leave throttle/manifold pressure at full or leave RPM at 2500+ and lower the throttle/manifold pressure?

Legally? Clear. Right now? Probably red. I've got 1200 gallons of red dye on the ranch right now. None on the truck though....yet. Sent from my Pixel 5 using Tapatalk

I learn something from every flight and every plane, that's for sure, of course at just under 20 hours now that's to be expected. The school has a Citabria tail wheel that I want to spend some time in after my PPL to get the tail wheel endorsement and really just because I think they teach some stick and rudder skills that you can't get otherwise. After a couple hundred hours, I'm going to find someone to do some aerobatic training with, not because I want to do aerobatics in a Mooney but because again, I think it teaches stick and rudder skills that do apply to just about any aircraft and it'll make me a better pilot overall, plus aerobatics are fun. Right now though, my focus is to finish the PPL and get an instrument rating by the end of the year. It's going to be a lot of work but, it's doable. I don't want to even attempt a long cross country flight before I'm instrument rated and definitely don't want to travel with my family without the instrument rating. It's been drilled into me by my dad that an instrument rating makes a safer pilot and it's very likely to save my life one day. He's seen a lot more than me in this respect so, I can't argue with his assertion at all.

LOL, it's all good. They're just protective of planes that aren't being made anymore, which also makes them protective of low hour pilots by default. I don't take it personally, I know they're coming from a place of concern and I actually appreciate the input, even if it isn't what I want to hear. Some good points were made that I had not previously considered. At the end of the day though, I trust the opinion of my CFI and my dad, who know me personally, more than people on the Internet that have never met me. Both were in favor of this so, I went with it. If either of them had been opposed, I would've held off until they felt otherwise or I'd have bought a trainer. I'm really looking forward to spending some time in her and not bouncing around between the different flight school planes because of availability or maintenance. It's tougher to learn when you're not consistently in the same plane. The sight picture, performance, engine settings for proper descent speed, view of the runway at flair all changes when I move into a different plane and it always takes me back a step for that lesson. Having my own will eliminate that issue. Sent from my Pixel 5 using Tapatalk

You know how Cortes burned his ships and then conquered the Aztecs? It's kind of like that. Make a decision to do something and then do it. Sent from my Pixel 5 using Tapatalk

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What are you guys using for yoke mounts for your iPads? I've got a mini 5 that I'm using for Foreflight and I would like to have it on the yoke instead of a knee board, I'm just not sure which one would work best and best prevent overheating. I'll be flying an M20C.

They're coming. PPI is scheduled for 8/13, I'll get some then.

Thanks all, I learned something today so it's a good day. Sent from my Pixel 5 using Tapatalk

The last log entry was also in 2020, so it hasn't had an annual since then.

Good point. I have easy access to ethanol free fuel but, it's only 89 octane and it costs about the same as Avgas.

Here you go.

I'm reading the POH for the M20C and it says that the engine uses 91/98 octane fuel. Obviously the 110 octane AVgas is good but, what about 93 octane Mogas? It's above the 91 octane minimum... I don't mind buying Avgas, it's really more convenient than hauling in cans of Mogas, but in a pinch it would be nice to have the option.

So I decided against a B and made a deal on a C today instead. [emoji846] Sent from my Pixel 5 using Tapatalk

I'll be honest, if a seller said that to me, I'd either want a SIGNIFICANT discount or I'd just walk away. It would make me think they're hiding something if they won't let me take it to a shop that has all the appropriate tools to fully inspect the plane. I would feel the same way if I was looking at a car and someone told me the only way a mechanic could look at it was if they came to the seller's garage, which doesn't have a lift. I'm glad that wasn't the case with this one, we just agreed on a price that I think is very fair. This is going to be fun! Sent from my Pixel 5 using Tapatalk

So I went and looked at the plane this morning and the seller was super accommodating. I didn't bring any tools but he had a screwdriver and opened everything we asked to see inside and then let both me and the CMEL/CFI I brought with me fly it briefly, even letting the CMEL/CFI land the plane, he probably would have let me land it also, I didn't feel comfortable with my low hours though. I talked with him about a PPI and he's willing to bring it to my A&P of choice so I'm going to make an offer on it. This was my first time flying a Mooney and I have there is no comparison to the Cherokee, 172s and Champs I've flown in the past. I really liked the seat configuration and how tight the controls are, it really felt like going from my F450 into my old BMW 335 with M3 suspension upgrade, just no comparison at all. I'm really looking forward to learning this aircraft and building some time in it. I'll probably add an EDM-900 to it and update the GPS but otherwise the avionics are serviceable for what I want to do with it.

He bought a new one. It flies 300 miles at least twice a week, in fact Flight Aware shows it made one today. Sent from my Pixel 5 using Tapatalk

Thanks. I like to ask open ended questions and then shut up. I've found that a lot of people are uncomfortable with silence and if I don't break it, they'll just keep going and say more than they intended. I definitely don't want to dissect anybody's plane, I don't have the skills to really know what I'm looking at. I also don't want to wait several weeks to get it into a shop for a PPI and spend $2k when there's obvious corrosion that could have been seen by taking out 4 screws. On cars it's easy, I show up with a scanner and read the computer. I don't have the tools to do that with a plane though. The logs are good and thorough, annuals don't show a lot of repairs but, stuff is getting fixed in between. It's being flown at least a couple of times a week, which was one of the reasons I want to go see it. I was looking at another one but when I got the logs, it was really close to TBO and hasn't moved in 2 years. Even though that one has a better avionics stack, that was enough to scratch it off the list. I don't want a project. Sent from my Pixel 5 using Tapatalk

If only, I'm making the trip in a 172... Better than driving but, it definitely won't be Mooney time. Sent from my Pixel 5 using Tapatalk

Thanks for the feedback. I'm flying 200 miles to look at this so hopefully, that makes me a serious enough buyer to get a little bit of a ride. I don't want to fly it myself, but I wouldn't buy a car without a test drive, seems like it should be the same with a plane in some form? Sent from my Pixel 5 using Tapatalk

I've reviewed the logs. I agree about not bothering to make the trip until doing so. Sent from my Pixel 5 using Tapatalk