T. Peterson

Thoughtful and very well written.

That’s a fair criticism. I should not have said “perfect as I know you are not claiming perfection. My point is that however you want to quantify the increased safety and reliability of an AI human in a cockpit vs a real human there may be some very catastrophic unintended consequences. Computer errors can quickly cascade as can be empirically verified. Even though human error is always with us, modern airline training has made leaps and bounds in mitigating many of the risks. Maybe an AI pilot would have the presence of mind to land on the Potomac but I am not betting on it. I did not mean to upset you at all. I am just throwing in my two cents, and it is worth exactly that, two cents. I’m 64, and will be pushing up daisies long before this issue is resolved. Have a wonderful week!

There are also factors beyond the mere technical development. What about people who enjoy driving for driving sake? The retired couple enjoying their convertible or the motorcyclist enjoying the curves. Or the young family that can’t afford an AI car? Not to worry, just bend to the collective will….hmmm……never been here before….

I think Wall Street may have had a few computer glitches with pretty significant consequences. Of course we know by experience the foibles of human pilots, but we are only imagining the perfect bliss of computer pilots. What we want to believe may not work out that perfectly.

Grant it, but I think William’s point is that imperfect people will never design a perfect system. I agree.

I think the argument can be made that the Air France pilots failed precisely because they were over dependent on Automation. They were great monitors, but not doers. Precisely because of Air France and some other instances in which Pilots watched the automation fly the airplane into the ground there was a total paradigm shift towards more hands on flying. When our airline moved to the Airbus we stopped training stalls because the Bus “couldn’t stall.” After a couple of incidents at other airlines that was seen to be premature and we started training stalls again. Following a few more incidents like Air France, we now train not just stalls but full upset jet training. It may be a little early to take your pilot uniforms to the thrift store.

That’s good to know. I didn’t consider that scenario, but I will now. Thanks.

Exactly. Liberty is a very precious treasure. Messy at times but always precious.

I think that most of us are assuming an accelerating airplane. I at least would not consider raising the flaps unless my airplane was accelerating.

I think our view is quite realistic. Thus the cynicism.

Only time I land with auto thrust is in the Sim or doing an auto-land approach. I think at least some hard landings are because the A/T can’t keep up in high gusty winds.

Well said! I loved this line: “Some folks just love reading regulations in the most impractical and burdensome way possible.”

I certainly won’t dispute that of which I cannot know, but I have never heard of using only rudder to turn other than a hovering helicopter. If for some ungodly reason this gentleman was taught such a thing it is no wonder he struggled with instrument flying. His inner ears didn’t know whether to crap or go blind.

I was taught the same for very small corrections to prevent an over correction. That technique was not what killed this fellow. He was simply over his head and over-controlling from sheer panic.

Wow! Excellent work, Maestro! I too am sorry to see you have to go through this. After months of bureaucratic incompetence, an examiner sends you a letter with all the requirements you are supposed to meet, or else. They can’t process a simple request in 6 months, but buddy you better perform. Too bad they don’t have a few Chuck Yeagers in the administrative departments to actually accomplish something, but I guess they are saving all of those to pass judgement on your flying skills. What a rodeo. Very happy you got through it!

I think it’s probably awful! Just buy mine and I will sacrifice myself and take that one off your hands.

I am in the DFW area……. But I’m afraid a ride in your Rocket will turn me into a very covetous man!!! I better stick with my leaky 231…..

You are exactly right and your quote goes right to the heart of the issue. The regs are subjective, which leaves the citizen at the mercy of the bureaucrat. Who gets to decide if it’s “a problem” or “not a problem”? If an inspector doesn’t like you for whatever reason, or just happens to be in a bad mood he has broad interpretive powers. Does anyone remember Bob Hoover?

Good. The OP should just fly his airplane to the closest place to get it certified and don’t sweat the small stuff.

Wow! What a thread. When even the heavy hitters can’t agree after quoting myriad regulations and legalize, what is an average smuck like me supposed to think? I have only learned that my cynicism and contempt for bureaucrats and their minions is justified. It is utterly absurd that our regulations are written so poorly and incomprehensibly. It seems like a purposeful attempt to entrap citizens rather than enhance safety.

Wow! What a procedure! No wonder nobody calls me back! Well that is certainly above my pay grade. I will have to wait till a shop is willing to work on it or I graduate from A&P school! LOL! The engine runs great. I just flew Ennis, Texas to Wichita, Kansas yesterday and heading home today. So I guess I will just continue to march and keep trying to get the airplane seen. I so very much appreciate you taking the time to respond and post this procedure. At least I am armed with needed information and can hopefully discern with a few gentle questions the procedural intentions of any given shop. Thank you

I like it. I find it amusing that so many dismiss the Bible while elevating bureaucratic legalese to Biblical proportions. The rules are made to serve men. Men are not made to serve the rules.

Thanks Will, that is excellent advice…..if I can find a mechanic with time to work on it! I am waiting on two to call me back. I gave them both plenty of lead time but it’s just crickets. I think they are all so busy they can cherry pick the jobs they want to do and avoid the more difficult. I may have to re-think working on my own plane but I will have to buy a bunch of equipment. I retire in the fall, maybe I should go to A&P school!! I may not be able to fix my airplane but so far the Pros are 0/4.

Interesting and informative. In all the big words I didn’t see anything about a gps connection, unless one of those big words was code for gps connection! Some folks have used the word “drift”, but to me that indicates a navigation error not gyroscope precession of the AI. I still feel a bit confused, but I am of Swedish descent, so go easy on me!

Two witnesses just adds credibility. I am grateful for the reposts. Since, generally speaking, no one restates exactly what was previously written, there are various nuances which can be helpful.